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How Much Are These Idiots Costing Chelsea?

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by Munstertoon, Nov 2, 2011.

  1. Robby202

    Robby202 Well-Known Member

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    Certainly differs from your preconceived idea that's for sure! You didn't answer the Adebayor question?

    What a Stefan Kuntz <laugh>
     
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  2. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    This was in answer to the Adebayor question :)
     
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  3. Drogs

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    I'm on my phone, google it. I'm ure you'll find something.
     
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  4. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    I'm well aware of the time he allegedly hit the bouncer at a nightclub and called him a paki. However exaggerating it to saying he bottled him makes you look foolish. Unless there is any proof you can find to another occasion where he did bottle someone?

    Did I support him? Not particularly, no. His case was entirely different however as far as I remember he never denied it and he wasn't ever charged with anything, if he was they were dropped. Just because he wasn't proven guilty I'm not naive enough to think that he is entirely innocent however so you won't ever catch me defending him over his off the field conduct other than to point out that it's an isolated incident.

    Now that I've got that rather irrelevant point of yours out of the way. You'll notice that I've never had anything against you supporting your captain but vilifying Anton when he has not publicly accused Terry of anything is stupid. Even if you choose to assume that Ferdinand has accused him then innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean Anton's wrong or lying, it means that you don't lambast the accused assuming guilt.
     
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    Sorry to piss on your chips but it was his half brother who he wasn't brought up with.
     
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  6. bluemoon2

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    Unfortunately , the empty headed element, form part of our society! We have some of them in our ranks, and I dont doubt most other clubs have their own captive dumbos! I just wonder in the aftermath, having sobered up and read about themselves, how they feel about it now!
     
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  7. Robby202

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    Does that mean he's only half a ****?
     
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    <ok>
     
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    And his cousin, and another family member was jailed for helping the race murderers flee to amsterdam.

    All in prison now; as criminal Barton was once.

    How can you hire a convicted felon to captain your club?
     
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  10. Drogs

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    Ok I was exaggerating with bottled, but the concept is still there. Are you saying that because Terry has denied this, it makes it all wrong? It only makes it wrong if it's found out to be true - something that hasn't happened yet. So hold your horses. How is it at all irrelevant? Just because he admitted to it doesn't mean it makes it better, what he did was worse than Terry has been accused of.

    Point was, we have a right to defend our players. If he says he didn't do it then I believe him and if it turns out to be true then I'll accept we were wrong and hopefully our club and the FA deal with it in a correct manner.
     
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  11. BackStabbed

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    Our fans hardly sung anything extreme, they was just singing the truth and their opinion, JT's our captain and legend and were support him untill the end and were just giving him our support, i'm sure if the shoe was on the other foot newcastle fans would do the same.
     
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  12. No Kane No Gain

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    I don't think you understand what I'm saying at all, maybe it was me so I'll try again. I won't defend King, he was wrong.

    It was irrelevant because your point was that you should be allowed to support Terry throughout this, which I agree with. Also they're very different circumstances.

    My stance is that I simply don't know if he's wrong or right. We've only heard Terry's half of the story right now and only the FA are aware of the details and Anton's evidence so it'd only be through bias that I'd hold anyother opinion.

    I don't see abusing Anton Ferdinand either in the stands or on here as supportive to Terry as it is unnecessarily and hypocritically vilifying Anton. By all means give Terry and extra big cheer and stick up for him on hear when people are jumping to conclusions and calling him a racist but abusing Anton does not help Terry and it appears your club agree with me on that.

    You brought up the innocent until proven guilty and I'd agree with that in this case but it also applies to Anton. He hasn't publicly accused Terry of anything or even taken a side so how can Chelsea fans call him a **** without themselves jumping to conclusions? Not to mention that going on the assumption that he has accused Terry of racist language, he too is yet to be proven wrong.

    I also made a point about using examples to somehow try and gloss over your own fans songs is wrong but I think I'll leave that one for now.
     
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  13. Drogs

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    I'm not aiming it at you, my point was that no team is full of golden boys in modern football including your own. I admit I was being a bit of a twat with my comment but I'm pissed off will all the accusations being thrown at Chelsea at the moment as it's not a true reflection of 95% of our fans. You would be the same.
     
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  14. No Kane No Gain

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    Fair enough <ok>
     
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    i have no problem with chelsea supporting their captain but they should not be having a go at ferdinand - this situation is different to the evra/suarez case as we all know what evra has alleged - we do not know what allegation (if any) has been made by ferdinand
     
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  17. Drogs

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    I agree with you.
     
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    <party>
     
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  19. bluemoon2

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    And I agree with you as well! <ok>
     
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  20. Yurilly

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    I assume all of his siblings must be his half-siblings, his mother must have been that type of woman. It would be damaging to a child seeing your mother come back every night with a new man especially one of a different race. It could very likely create a hostile attitude towards that race.
     
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