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Daily Racing Thread Sunday 11th. September 2022

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  1. attivo

    attivo Well-Known Member

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    Sunday's Meetings

    Doncaster
    Flat 9 Races 12:30-5:05p.m.
    St Leger Off @ 3:55p.m.
    Curragh
    Flat 8 Races 1:15-5:20p.m.
    Chepstow
    Flat 7 Races 1:25-4:55p.m.

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    Good Luck <ok>
     
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  2. You See

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    Its good to see they have been put back on for the Late Queen . They had been Abandoned until Mondays cards . This should help lift the mood a bit . My way of looking at loss is it SHOULD be CELEBRATED . We should be sad for a loss but greatful for any time we have had the pleasure of knowing them . The Queen loved animals especially Horses and racing , the sport was graced with that attention and should be there to aid happy memories and achievements .
    Good luck all who play tomorrow
     
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    In the second race at Doncaster (13:00), a Class-2 Handicap over 6f, I fancy Able Kane to repeat his win in this race last year. Decent form lines and will be ideally suited to ground conditions and distance. William Buick rides for the Rod Millman stable.
    11/2 best price at time of writing.
     
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    Like the look of that myself swanny but that stands out with 3 others , Buick is a good booking but ( thats where it goes wrong for me very unusual booking) . Crowley looks more natural on tanmawwy going 2 from two in the plate ,hyperfocus also stands out .
    Good luck though mate
     
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    Anybody going against Trueshan today ?
     
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    Chepstow
    125 fossos 5/4
    310 wades magic 11/2
    340 grey galleon 7s
    455 danny bleu 16s ew
     
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    Doncaster
    Splitting my stake on this although i much prefer asjad
    100 asjad 10s tanmawwy 4s
    320 al suhail 11/2
    430 johan 16s ew (not raced for a while be warned)
    505 hms president 13/2
     
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  8. QuarterMoonII

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    Whilst the circumstances were obviously not desirable, I think that running the St Leger today would not have met with any disapproval from Her Majesty, the sport’s most celebrated supporter. It also proves fortuitous for Doncaster in that they have been able to add the pattern races from Friday’s lost card to provide a bumper celebration in honour of Her Majesty.

    Just a side note: when horses owned by The Queen run in future, will it say “Exors of The Queen” in the owner’s column? My expectation is that ownership will transfer to the Royal Stud in the same manner that Hamdan Al Maktoum’s horses now run under the Shadwell banner.

    I cannot recall the last time that I got an email from my At The Races horse tracker with three of my beasts engaged at one meeting.

    The first of them is Chaldean, in a very disappointing three horse running of the Champagne Stakes (12:30). The Acomb winner is opposed again by the runner-up Indestructible whilst the other runner is the odds on favourite Silver Knott, hailing from the all-conquering Charlie Appleby barn that has something like a 40 per cent strike rate with its juveniles this term. With the Balding charge available at field odds with Frankie aboard, I might tempt myself into parting with a couple of shekels...

    The lovely looking grey Tyrrhenian Sea turns out in the 4:30 but at just 3/1 in a competitive handicap, thanks to his good effort at the Ebor meeting in a valuable handicap, I will only be watching today.

    The one that I would have been expecting to see in the Park Hill on Thursday is Haskoy, who instead was supplemented into the St Leger. She needs to find quite a lot of improvement if going just by the ratings but she is tipped by Timeform on SportingLife.com as they clearly think that she is capable of the necessary development; and she only trades at 9/2 second favourite in the market. This does not look like a great renewal of the St Leger in terms of form in the book and it is easy to crab New London at around even money. His Gordon Stakes win does make him the obvious form pick (although I have my doubts about the form) and it is hard to see third Hoo Ya Mal (runner up in the Derby) reversing the placings unless the favourite does not stay. French Claim’s third in the Irish Derby was a remote third, he has not been seen since and only Tuesday has upheld that form in any way. Ballydoyle’s Emily Dickinson is surely here looking for place black type as her only win in seven starts was a Naas maiden and she does not look good enough. The best chance amongst those at decent odds looks like Queen’s Vase winner Eldar Eldarov (beautifully bred out of All At Sea) for whom the trip and the ground will be fine and his respectable fourth in the Grand Prix de Paris was boosted yesterday by the winner Onesto at Leopardstown.

    The Doncaster Cup should be a penalty kick for Trueshan – he has his ground and the lack of quality in the opposition is why he is 1/3.
     
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    Morning

    St Leger-Hoo Ya Mal

    Each Way @ 15-2

    Not been given the respect he deserves in my opinion
     
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    St leger stakes
    I really cant see my pick beating New London but with 3 places and 28s on offer i will ew Giavellotto the ground will suit and traveled well at c/d a few months back .
    Not the most inspiring booking but Callan should put a big shift in for Botti.
     
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    Doncaster
    13,00 Fools Rush In 9/1 e/w bet365 four places
    14,10 Ghathanfar 16/1 e/w sky seven places, others six
    15,55 Eldar Eldarov 7/1 e/w three places

    Curragh
    14,25 Ebro River 12/1 e/w bet365 five places
     
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  12. QuarterMoonII

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    As is usual for the Arc Trials day, the two Group 2 events have produced single figure fields whilst the feature race, the Group 1 Prix Vermeille, has attracted a good field of fillies and mares chasing black type as well as a big pot.
    The six in the Prix Foy (1:33 UK time) are something of a conundrum. The Japanese raider My Rhapsody has never raced on easy ground, won his three races as a juvenile but has not won since including two races on dirt this term. Little surprise then that he is 50/1 today having last run in April in Tokyo over a mile. Mutabahi does hold an Arc entry and is trading at 100/1 but was last seen running poorly in the Grand Prix de Chantilly in June and this would be a big step up on his penultimate race when he won over course and distance at Group 3 level. But there is the rub because when he won the Prix d’Hedouville, today’s favourite Bubble Gift was a length and a half behind in fourth. The Nathaniel colt subsequently reversed that form at Chantilly (finished second) and was third in the Grand Prix de Saint Cloud last time. So a Bubble Gift victory here would boost the form of winner Alpinista as well as shortening his 66/1 Arc odds. Verry Elleegant takes on the boys but is going to have to do markedly better than her last place in the Prix Jean Romanet to justify her transfer to Francis-Henri Graffard from Australia. She trades at 40/1 in the Arc market but she needs to be involved in the finish here unless Graffard has some cunning plan for an Arc coup. Iresine was third last time in a Group 3 and as a gelding is not eligible for the Arc. If he wins today there is no Arc contender in the race. Aidan O’Brien’s High Definition makes up the six but he was last in the Juddmonte and was behind Bubble Gift in the Grand Prix de Saint Cloud so I cannot see grounds for optimism for this Arc 66/1 shot. So a slim argument can be made that Bubble Gift is the form pick here but is no play at the price.

    Seven three year olds go for the Prix Niel (3:25 UK time) with four holding entries in the Arc. I think Clairefontaine maiden winner Deputy Ruler can be ruled out. The cynic in me thinks that Aidan O’Brien’s Aikhal (last in the Great Voltigeur) is here as a marker to give Ballydoyle some indication of how good the others might be as he does not hold an Arc entry. Andre Fabre’s True Testament holds an Arc entry and comes here on the back of a close third in the Prix Guillaume d’Ornano at Deauville and could step up on that today. Francis-Henri Graffard’s L’Astronome was fifth in the Grand Prix de Paris when last seen in July, a race in which the son of Frankel was behind Simca Mille, just pipped by Onesto. Obviously neither has run for two months and could be rusty today; and the latter would need supplementing for the Arc for which he trades at 40/1. So a process of elimination almost leaves me with Jean Claude Rouget’s Lassaut, winner of the Listed Prix Nureyev at Deauville last time over ten furlongs and 33/1 for the Arc: he is race fit but was unplaced in the Prix Du Jockey Club and the Poulains so is the son of Almanzor just crying out for this trip? The Japanese raider Do Deuce is where most interest will lie as he is just 14/1 for the Arc, he was Japan’s champion juvenile of 2021 and was last seen winning the Tokyo Yushun (Japanese Derby) in May over this trip. Reservations are that he has never raced on anything but firm ground and he could be rusty after three months off; however, accepting the caveats he does appear to be the best horse in the field. If he were to win well then would Baaeed suddenly be switched to Ascot to avoid the Japanese three year old?

    Eleven are listed for the feature Prix Vermeille (2:50 UK time) but none feature in the Arc betting at less than 25/1. Love Child simply is not a Group 1 filly on her known form and is one of several that are here looking for place black type. That also includes Lilac Road (last on her one try on soft ground, behind Tuesday in the Yorkshire Oaks), History (last in the Irish Oaks and last in the Prix de la Nonette behind Agave) and Albaflora (not seen since May, no Arc entry). Grand Glory looks the best of the older contingent but she has not been out since June and her best trip is ten furlongs. I think she may be here warming up for the Prix de l’Opera, where she was pipped under my money and Frankie last year! That brings me to the three year old fillies. The very well related Juddmonte filly Agave steps up to the mile and a half after finishing third in the Nonette, prior to which she had been fourth in the Prix de Diane with Japanese filly Fall In Love fifth but La Parisienne second. The Carlos and Yann Lerner trained filly has had a break since just failing against Nashwa, trades at 40/1 for the Arc but does not hold an entry. Another Zarak filly, Baiykara, could be the Aga Khan’s best chance of an Arc runner. Francis-Henri’s filly holds an entry and was a very close third to Raclette in the Group 2 Prix de Malleret over course and distance last time. That probably makes her the pick of the home team but I think she will not be good enough to handle the Oaks winner TUESDAY. She can boost her Arc chances and shorten her 25/1 Arc odds by giving Aidan O’Brien his first win in this race. In so doing she will pay a compliment to Alpinista, her York conqueror, and an emphatic victory might see her become second favourite for the Arc as a three year old filly, giving Aidan O’Brien a surprisingly strong hand in one weekend.
     
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    Although I expect Tuesday to take the Prix Vermeille (14:50) I will have a modest e/w on Agave, who will be ridden by Mickaël Barzalona for the powerful André Fabre yard.

    (After opening disappointment, I'm off for the day! :()
     
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    Sorry (just lifting the gloom)
    BOOOOOOM
    ASJAD 10S
    FOSSOS 11/10
    two races done and two winners
    Crackerstyle
     
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    Count D’orsay has been expensive to follow for a while. The money seems to be down and he gets his ground
     
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    Nice form boost for Alpinista
     
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    A boost for Onesto?
     
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    Giavellotto was unlucky to get squshed on the rail then could well have took a place
     
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    Eldar Eldarov won.
     
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    Boooooom what a nice place
     
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