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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

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  3. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    You may not like punk music (and I support your right not to do so), but it was possibly the only music (possibly the only popular media) to really address this issue and pull no punches at all...

    God save the queen
    The fascist regime
    They made you a moron
    A potential H bomb

    God save the queen
    She's not a human being
    and There's no future
    And England's dreaming

    Don't be told what you want
    Don't be told what you need
    There's no future
    No future
    No future for you

    God save the queen
    We mean it man
    We love our queen
    God saves
    God save the queen
    'Cause tourists are money
    And our figurehead
    Is not what she seems

    Oh God save history
    God save your mad parade
    Oh Lord God have mercy
    All crimes are paid
    Oh when there's no future
    How can there be sin
    We're the flowers
    In the dustbin
    We're the poison
    In your human machine
    We're the future
    Your future

    God save the queen
    We mean it man
    We love our queen
    God saves

    God save the queen
    We mean it man
    There's no future
    In England's dreaming
    God save the queen

    No future
    No future
    No future for you
    No future
    No future
    No future for me
    No future
    No future
    No future for you

    In 1977, in Jubilee week, it outsold the second most popular single by a factor of 3:1, despite being banned from the airwaves and most venues refusing to honour contracts to let the band play. It never reached no. 1 on the official chart, because we live in the fascist state that the song claims...and it put the wind up those who hold power in this country and offered an alternate outlook that they despised. They called it "God saves..." and pretended that Rod Stewart's 'I Don't Want To Talk About It/The First Cut Is The Deepest' outsold it.

    45 years on, it remains the greatest piece of popular music produced by this country...




     
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    I am the admin for a union based chat group, third world war broke out last night on line over her demise, it's got to the point where I've just found out that someone has reported me to HR and my balls could be on the block even though I tried to defuse the situation by withdrawing some of the more vocal members from the chat , what a ****ing mess
     
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    We disagree on music but we are one with the sentiment.
     
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  6. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    On a number of levels, I'm sorry to hear it. I hope you're not too badly affected by having to step in.

    Once our new Fuhrer repeals the Human Rights Act, particularly Article 10...
     
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    Last night, at about 7.30 pm, when I was cooking dinner and was interested in the football being played, they had Piers Morgan and a former editor of The Evening Standard spouting the biggest load of bollocks that I've ever heard.

    If anyone wants to know why people want rid of this monarchy, this is a good place to start.
     
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    On a personal level, I admired the Queen. But I’m strictly an anti-monarchist and anti establishment (despite previously being a civil servant for 20 years).

    I only stream TV shows thus can avoid all the glib on TV for the next few weeks.

    I’ve turned the radio off in the car as I don’t want to listen to James Blunt and Adele.

    People are free to choose to grieve or not. But why the heck are they considering scrapping football matches? The scheduling this season surely leaves no room for cancellations. Looks like there’s going to be a bank holiday or day of mourning for the funeral so I’m not going to be able to work (self employed) and will lose a day’s pay.

    Day 1 and I’m sick of it already!
     
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    And I’m glad I’m not in the Civil Service anymore. I would have had a meltdown on being given guidance on what to wear for the next few weeks!
     
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    I won't even mention his current politics! <laugh>
     
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    There's a reason that I like to remain anonymous on here! <laugh>

    What are they intending to report you for, anyway? Moderation?
     
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  12. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Like many heroes, mostly he's now an extremely annoying, detestable prick. I make no defence for that...but it doesn't lessen his achievements as a young man.

    If I wondered what my 15 year old self would make of me 45 years later....I doubt that it would be good. <laugh>
     
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    My family came to this country before the first world war fleeing religious persecution. My grandfather fought in that war, my father in the second. Later I also served and many decades ago took this oath:

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    Most of you by your comments would regard such a commitment as ridiculous and out of time. Personally I have never forgotten the debt that my family owes this country. I also happen to think that a constitutional monarchy is a much better political system than it has any right to be, given the excesses of the presidential system in some countries. So excuse me if I happen to mourn the loss of the head of state.

    Long live the King.
     
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  14. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Is that the 'royal we'...?
     
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    Love that sketch. I've used it in camouflage lessons.
     
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    We? <laugh> There you go taking the piss or we as the posh people like to call it.
     
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    I will restrain myself and just say welcome to the the country that raped and pillaged one third of the world. If you wish to be part of that, and clearly you do you'll have to forgive my complete lack of respect for your position and any religion that you have been incorporated into.
     
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    With thanks to You Tube for providing an alternative
     
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    Terrible news for the makers of Stranger Things: now if you boot up Netflix you're going to get railroaded towards The Crown
     
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    How long before the marketing men realise that they are alienating their potential customers.
     
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