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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spurlock, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. Diego

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    It's not really though is it, the fact that the ball deflected off his legs negates the concept of "unnatural position" of his arms as this is meant to indicate that a player attempted to block the ball with them.
     
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  2. Diego

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    So man turnig away for ball and putting his hands down to break his fall is unnatural?

    Great example mate, cheers <ok>
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

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    <laugh>
     
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  4. PowerSpurs

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    It really doesn't. The Law reads
    It is an offence if a player touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised.

    If the ball hits his arm then the only thing that matters is if it was in an unnatural position. It is nothing to do with an attempt to block the ball. In this particular example I don't have a clue how the ref is supposed to judge it but it certainly isn't a clear error.
     
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  5. Diego

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    And?
     
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  6. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Which arm breaks his "fall"?
     
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  7. Diego

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    So do you think he made his body bigger by having his arm in an unnatural position?
    Where would his arm naturally be in that movement <doh>
     
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  8. Diego

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    Both if you look at the direction his palms are heading <doh>
     
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  9. PowerSpurs

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    If I was trying to block a shot with my legs I would be sliding towards the ball with my hands close in on either side to break my fall. Twisting with his arms out makes his body bigger than that.
     
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  10. Diego

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    <laugh>
     
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  11. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    https://juststream.live/IncapacitatesWakeCommutator

    What do people make of that?

    Edit: Replaced dead link with live one.
     
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  12. Diego

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    Should have tied his laces?

    I bet you would have wanted a penalty for that <laugh>
     
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  13. cini65

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    Lisandro Martinez's arms are always in an unnatural position though, given they're always about 50cm closer to the ground than almost any other human being in the world.
     
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  14. "Thanks for that Brian"

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  15. The RDBD

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    So in summary, Diego agrees that the penalty was just and fair.
     
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  16. PleaseNotPoll

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    I wouldn't mind, but I was arguing that it wasn't a penalty! <laugh>
     
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    Unfortunately I commented on a Chelsea facebook group at the time of the "worstest decisions ever in football match" (TM), pointing out the decisions that didn't go our way in the same match. This means of course that facebook now keeps presenting me with Chelsea facebook groups thinking that's something I actually want to see. My point is that they still keep posting that the VAR decision they got in the West Ham match was correct, even though the authorities themselves have admitted it was wrong. It's just relentless, and there are a lot of people who keep on posting stills that 'prove' the goal should have been disallowed. Sad people, sad club. Oh, and I've lost all respect for Potter now as well. May he fail completely.
     
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  18. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I think Werder Bremen v Augsburg is the free Youtube Bundesliga match tonight.
    They'll probably scrap it for the part-German Queen, though.



    Edited to add match.
     
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  19. redwhiteandermblue

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    I wanted the defender to be Lamela, so I could watch him toss the shoe over a high wire.
     
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  20. remembercolinlee

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    You broke Diego <laugh>
     
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