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Awful officiating

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by ToonArmy1892, Aug 29, 2022.

  1. JakartaToon

    JakartaToon Well-Known Member
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    Sorry - but I have decided that you shouldn't be the only voice of the Newcastle fans.

    So then explain to me how it works instead of speaking in riddles.
     
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  2. Toonitus

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    I've explained too many times and moved on because only time will see the screenshot rule being broken.

    It won't be a mistake and if get sussed I'll use the old double deception technique.
     
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  3. JakartaToon

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    I have decided to put you on ignore - at least until Google develop a Chaos-English translation tool.
     
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  4. Toonitus

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  5. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Do you not think that a team that got relegated has ever received a bad decision? It happens every year.. not sure why think this is a new phenomenon.
     
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  6. Toonitus

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    Correct match fixing and corruption has been in the game long before the serious money.

    There's now a people with huge amounts of investment riding on finishing in league positions in the top 6 .

    I'm asking you a simple question .. do you think there's corruption in football yes or no?
     
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  7. Roland Deschain

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    Promising article in the Mail about Howard Webb's plans, looks to be a start. He's keen on bringing in transparency so communication with officials is broadcast during a game and a weekly overview of the VAR decisions.

    For me they just need to do three things - 1) broadcast the conversation so tossers like Mason have nowhere to hide, 2) appoint external sources (managers, mainly, but also players) to work at Stockley Park (part funded by the PL) and 3) only interfere if something blatant has been missed and/or for offside when, again, it's CLEAR there's been a mistake.

    There's a legal phrase, reasonable doubt, that is a nice caveat for human intervention. The Brighton goal should not be ruled out, for example, because it's not beyond reasonable doubt as to whether the player interferes or is even offside. Isak's goal should stand, it's not beyond reasonable doubt - and disallowed if the Lino flags for offside. Liverpool's goal should be pulled back as there's a clear and obvious error where the referee has played on past the allotted time.

    Fraser vs Man City, Schar vs Man City, Longstaff vs Wolves. All clear errors, fouls, that should have resulted in penalties. Yet we've been punished for a non-foul vs Palace. I think give it one more go - let Webb implement his stuff. If it's still utter gash, get rid.
     
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  8. Toonitus

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    Nothing will change no matter how it's rejigged
     
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  9. Roland Deschain

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    Thats the spirit.
     
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  10. Toonitus

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    There's too much money involved it's riddled
     
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  11. ToonArmy1892

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    So Everton is the only game so far where we MIGHT have had decisions go our way that resulted in points (Joelinton should have been sent off first half by the sounds of it, Onana possibly fouled in the build up to goal, Gordon pen would have been soft but it is a free kick anywhere else on the pitch)

    So that is 2 points, still feel like we are owed about 4 more.

    It makes the fact we are 4th even more incredible.
     
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  12. ToonArmy1892

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    BTW the ref for that game was from Hartlepool, hope we get him more often.

    Tony Harrington is one of the good guys.
     
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  13. Hung Drawn and Quartered

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    4th official for the Villa game
     
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  14. ToonArmy1892

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    Has no influence unfortunately.
     
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  15. Roland Deschain

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    Appreciate this is about officiating against Newcastle, but Jesus H Christ what the **** were the officials smoking for that ruled out Tottenham goal? Absolutely incredible lack of basic knowledge.

    For me, VAR is ****ed and needs to get in the bin. Last night was the final nail in it for me, got to be scrapped. Took 3 minutes to decide - wrongly - that Kane was offside from a backwards pass. Clear and obvious my arse. They haven't got the technology in the correct form to even work out offsides and with so much time to still get it wrong is insane.
     
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  16. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    He was offside. The ball going backwards is irrelevant
     
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  17. Toonitus

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    People forget the ****housery that used to be commonly occurring before var. Despite its flaws there's a lot of good things it's removed
     
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  18. JakartaToon

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    A lot of people have been spouting this but, as DPP says, the rule says that a player cannot be offside if he is behind the ball. You often see players finish off goals where the final pass goes forwards but they are behind the ball when it is played by the assister so they are not offside.

    In this case Kane was ahead of the ball when it hit the defender (which was accidental so doesn't count as a backpass etc) and also apparently just ahead of the ball when it was headed so he was offside.
     
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  19. boxheed

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    See, clear and obvious error, simple :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
     
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  20. G4rdToonArmy

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    As others have said - it was the right decision BUT the issue is it took them 3 god damn mins to come to that. I have no idea what they were checking - get the lines out - offside Y/N? Goal given/denied - simples! There should be a 30 sec limit before calling the ref to the screen and then he get's 30 seconds to get to the monitor and decide. The length of time taken to come to really really basic decisions is a farce.
     
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