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  1. rovertiger

    rovertiger Well-Known Member

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    Won't he want a move with no links?
     
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  2. Sumatran_Tiger

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    I don't eat carnivores but pigs are omnivores and I've never seen them eat grass.
     
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  3. Kempton

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    Why is it that some people hate us to eat vegan?

    I mean, what's the problem?

    Simple Question.
     
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  4. Steven Toast

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    I think it's to do with people feeling "obligated" or something. Some vegans can be very preachy, and that has somehow projected itself onto everybody else who has decided to go animal free. So when people go "oh I'm vegan", some non-vegans tend to go backs to the wall defensive about eating meat and think it's being pushed on them. IMHO there literally isn't a reason for eating meat, other than "it tastes good", which is subjective to the person in question and doesn't really address the issue at hand. If people aren't bothered about nature or animal welfare, then they aren't going to be persuaded to eat a plant based diet.

    I switched to a plant based diet a few years ago, I gained muscle mass far quicker than I did when I ate meat and I have to say it's improved my health no end. I wouldn't go round telling people to do it, I can't be ****ed with that and people have their own choices to make, but from my point of view it was a really great change. I want to be around for as long as possible for my kids and with my old diet, that wasn't going to happen.

    It's weird not eating bacon, sausages, cheese etc at first, but I got over it pretty quick. The best strategy I had was to just tell myself "food is just fuel, nothing more." Then it didn't matter about liking a bacon roll or a cheese pizza, because that wasn't the best fuel for my body. Now I just eat quickly, get it over with and crack on with other stuff.
     
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  5. Newlandcasual2

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    And there's the preachy bit already, I'am extremely bothered about nature and habitat loss inparticular, being actively involved in trying to prevent a well publicised development on the outskirts of Hull with will destroy a community area and part of the most botanical rich grasslands in the Hull area so to say us meat eaters don't care about nature is a bit rich and very wrong.
    On another note you do actaully need cattle and sheep to graze various grassland and other wildlife habitats otherwise the land would just return to scrub and eventaully woodland, so would farmers just be expected to keep these species just as museam pieces to preserve some of Britains green and pleasent land ?
     
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  6. Drew

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    This I can't get my head around. I LOVE food, it brings me so much joy. I'd definitely eat a vegan diet, and I've cut down loads on meat consumption, but the alternatives (especially cheese) aren't quite there yet for me to make the full switch

    I don't think he said ALL meat eaters are not bothered about the environment. He's right in saying IF someone isn't bothered, they are unlikely to switch to a vegan diet.
     
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  7. tigerscanada

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    Of course? :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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    Guaranteed to break the ice at (dinner) parties.:emoticon-0100-smile:emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  9. Jezz511

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    Some of those "preachy" Vegans are the same as Islamist Fundamentalists.
    They have their opinion.
    You don't.
    But even if you did, Yours will be wrong.
    Everything you do is wrong.
    You are going to Hell.

    If going to Hell means I avoid these pricks, then bring it on!
     
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  12. Steven Toast

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    I wasn’t being preachy. But look at your response, you’ve pretty much underlined my point with a big fat marker pen.

    Yes, you can breed cows to keep the vegetation in check without killing and eating them. The killing bit is optional.
     
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  13. Steven Toast

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    I totally get that, it’s why I’d never tell somebody to be vegan because they had to. It’s always down to choice and I stand by that. I used to love eating, probably why I was such a fat **** <laugh>. But since my medication change I just don’t see it the same way anymore. It’s just a rudimentary thing.
     
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  14. Jezz511

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    I'd fully convert to vegan but unfortunately my conditions are that

    1) it costs the same or cheaper
    2) it tastes the same or better

    I know it's not very environmentally sound conditions and probably quite selfish globally but unfortunately as Drew said above... I love food. Its one of my main sources of enjoyment and all power to people who can overcome that for the greater good but honestly I can't.
     
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    Importing avocados and almonds, very water dependent, from the other side of the world, has more impact on the environment than eating some meat produced a few miles away.
     
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    oat milk is actually delicious and the production of oat milk leads to 80% less greenhouse gas emissions and uses 60% less energy. Making oat milk also uses about ten times less water than cow's milk
     
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  17. Jezz511

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    Which is great but a 2 minute look on tesco

    Tesco semi skimmed @ £0.64 per litre
    Tesco oat drink @ £1.30 per litre

    Unfortunate but a fact of life, with things as they are at the moment cost often comes before intentions.
     
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    Farming is not responsible for the climate crisis ( if there is one )
     
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    Based on your post I've just put oat milk in my tea. Didn't like it at all and it's also very environmentally unfriendly because I had to throw it away and make another one. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  20. Ric Glasgow

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    Good for your waste water drainage pipes though,it'll strip the fat bombs out of your sewerage system..
     
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