You didn’t answer those questions. So you think the game should be perfect? If this is a question .. I don't think the level of failure with referees, VAR and the goal line technology is acceptable when decisions, even with the benefit of video replay are still being made incorrectly... The Answer is yes. The game and it is a game is not perfect, a fast-paced game with subjective rules will never have 100% exact decisions. Refs will disagree with refs interpretations, and on. The majority of decisions are correct and made by people who have gone through a rigorous process to get there. Goal line technology is a differing thing. It deals with the binary. Imagine too you are the parent of a young ref being abused by adults because they feel they have the right to, imagine your that child , imagine you are one of the refs and there are thousands of them giving the game up because of abuse they receive each season, imagine you were the refr I know at a Bristol kids tournament who had to call the police due to the threats he received from parents waiting by his car .. Except you are not. That is being fed by people like Moyes who display their contempt for fellow human beings who work hard to get where they are. Refs dehumanised at the top get dehamnised at the bottom and cease isnt being called. Ref numbers have collapsed due to abuse and assaults. Thats where the game is in this Country, and our priority is?
The abuse is just another symptom of the gradual collapse of our society, poor Policing with steer from higher up the command chain, and low moral standards. We've ended up living in a society where today the Police get involved if you scream about being misgendered, or if someone sends you a mean tweet, but the Police don't want to know if your house or car is broken in to or if you report child abuse. The game of football worldwide never was, and never can be perfect, unless you start using robots and AI and then the Premiership would be even more dull and full of overpaid cheats and primadonnas than it is now. But they have started using technology that is used by humans who still make the same mistakes. So what I'm suggesting is that they take away the technology, let the game flow, and if a referee makes a bad decision off his own back it will still be no worse than it was before VAR came along.
Being condoned, justified and encouraged at the top. Refs at the top are dehumanised by pundits, the media, Managers, players ... feeding the dehumanisation of refs as being less worthy of respect than others human beings, and of course this manifest itself at grass roots level where even child refs are deemed of less worth. I posted something about VAR accelerating the lack of respect of refs, and dumbing down of official’s roles in what is a game seasons ago. Technology is here to stay a predicted and it will further infest football, but focus should also be put upon the flawless and perfect behaviours of Managers and players towards officials and its consequences. That should be a basic responsibility to the game, self reflection. At present Mangers etc behave in cowardly manners, easy to coat off officials who cannot and should not answer back. Harder to impossible for these icons and role models to extend respect. Respect of officials,the game should be a priority.
The disrespect endured by referees is shocking and until the authorities wake up to this scourge the game will suffer the wrath of fools who have never done the job. I know I will get kickback but perhaps we should follow rugby in it's condemnation of abuse of officials by sending offenders to a sin bin for 10 minutes. Currently each and every decision made by the officials leads to a mass gathering at the scene of the crime which continues unabated for several minutes whilst the players beg for mercy, or a change of heart, by the referee and his assistants. Any player other than the captain who sticks his face into the fray should get an immediate trip to the sin bin or a card of appropriate level. I never see referee baiting in rugby because the players know and generally abide by the rules and it's about time the same respect is brought to the game of football because I am sick and tired of seeing these overpaid cry babies whining at the slightest decision in their opponent's favour.
I agree, look how respected the refs are in rugby by the players. It’s because they fear the sin bin as they know how it will have a detrimental effect on their team
Does it matter if it achieves the desired outcome? For the record though, I think it’s the fear of the consequence, something they don’t have in football
The 'desired outcome' is to get decisions correct. Nothing else. The only option is for ex pros to take over Var. It's beyond belief why we allow people who have rarely kicked a ball, let alone professionally, to officiate in the Var room and decide football matches.
These people have decades of experience and will have refereed sometimes thousands of games. Meanwhile pros ands pundits and Managers and players criticising that expertise .. Frequently do not know the rules, and dont bother to learn them. Ex pros dont become refs because? Too hard. Their too soft. Its not enogh dough.They love the game that much they have other more important footbally things to do. There is nothing stopping players going down the same ref development pathway, but maybe its the £35 a game at the bottom as a reward that puts them off showing all they can do it better.
Maybe women pundits and commentators who are so prolific these days and who are so ‘capable’ of commenting on mens professional football should become professional refs if they’re that keen and knowledgeable ?
The nub. Referees know the rules. But don't know the game. Are you telling me there's not enough money to pay ex pros from the Premiership gravy train ? IF there was a will to sort this chaos it isn't beyond the wit of man to get ex pro's involved.
imagine Shearar in control of var. Its a stupid rule i don agree with it its a goal. Keepers have too much protection he hardly touched him knocking him through the net its a goal!!
Refs know both. Its part of assessment. There is no chaos. Does refereeing efficiency in the EPL mirror other major leages? Yes it does. Referees dont start at the Premiership. They start at entry level - junior football, and then pass assessment to the next level in a linear process. A process that can take decades to be ever considered for PGMOL level. Male or female they start at ameteur level. You dont get fast tracked straight to pro level. Might be a point there about meritocracy? Refs reach the top level because of the merit they create through their dedication and skills.
Tell that to Shearer and Moyes. My goodness, every day's a learning day. Clifton - our views on referees will never come together. On this momentous day we should leave it like that.
See in the AYL theyve gone down the abuse the ref lose the ref route. Teams now not allowed to9 have refs. Diy boys!!!
