My thoughts exactly. No stability, no long-term plan it seems. Though I am a bit surprised, myself. I didn't think that anyone else could have an attention-span as short as Abramovich's. What next - bring back José?
Not shocked in the sense that, as you say, it fits the scattergun approach with the signings, but why now, especially if they haven't got someone in mind? Give Tuchel a chance to work with the players more. Or Sack him earlier if you don't want him and get input from the new manager on transfers. As for who comes in, John Terry? Scott Parker? Brendan Rodgers?
who knows. Potter is being mentioned. theres a few deluded cheslea fans online (not our good lads bod or bobby) who ardently follow the transfer window more than the football and defend their antics no matter who they buy. They will tell you lukakus is the best/worst in the world and will have been saying how great koulibaly/fofana/ aubameyang etc all are. Every season its the same. Fofana - 75mil. or 100mil depding on which outlet wants to report add ons. Its grossly over inflated price for a player who's not that good. Koulibaly - very hot and cold defender. well past his best and on a massive wage. I've seen salah skin him multiple times so not checked he was sent off early on nor that he's **** o nthe ball. Sterling - no real reason to buy here bar cheslea can't support nor coach talent. sell werner for massive loss and spredn to get a guy who misses as many on a bigger wage. drop pulisisic and never back him. play havertz out of position etc. cucurella - buy him drop him. Bought cos city wanted him. now tuchel is gone the instruction will be top play him not chilwell. chukwagon - kid from villa bought cos why not. no intent to ever play. another shiny bauble for them. meanwhile gallagher goes and rots. aubameyang. 10mil spent on a free transfer for barca. nuts. slonima bought a 4 th keeper despite having/ cant get rid of kepa. the funny thing is: due to the unique way cheslea do business they are only 3rd in the next spend table Just putting this out there...... ARSENAL and ARTETA. WEST HAM and MOYES. the pressure needs to be on. Moyes has quietly shot up this table with 8 buys and a **** start to season. I already added him to the potential sack race. We can already see the billionaires at Newcastle quietly starting to buy the league. We can see levy trying to keep conte happy. meanwhile liveprool were 17th highest spenders in the prem with only leeds (virtue of city and barca buying big from them), city (cheslea shovelling cash at them), leicester (massive FFP issues plus cheslea cash) and Brighton (geniuses at work) spent less.
why now? maybe like scott parker their ego couldn't take the manager calling thier players into question? a player revolt? has happened in the past the owner never wanting him? surely would have been first to go? the dof/CEO or whatever not wanting him? who knows you are right its neither here nor there kind of decision which suggests reaction rather than proactive approach. It has to be poch. he's the only one available of the sort of rep the egos at cheslea would allow. BUT imo he's rep has been destroyed since the CL final. Spurs and psg flounderings. Potter at brighton is being mentioned already but again, he's so far away form the egos requirements that its hard to see. Zidane - a total mare of a coach but with the massive name as as such is probabaly ironed on as the ego's favourite.
Potter should be given a top job, thing is chelsea one atm is a huge risk. Don’t really know what they’re doing and potter needs time to implement style and get rid of most of the egos there, would he be given that time? Is he also a big enough name for chelsea to get? Not sure how much the new owners know about football so more than likely to go for a big name over anything else
rumours are players were giving tuchel the evil eye and bad mouthing him behind his back about his dolly bird girlfiend and that.
Thanks MITO. Not surprised Tuchel is gone. I'll give Todd a chance that he's not trigger happy as Roman. Obviously our bad start hasn't been great but Tuchels been moaning a lot. Bod made a comment earlier about how we were chasing 2 players that tuchel wanted but they didnt want to come and these other signings aren't Tuchels first choice (Raphina and Kounde). I think the main thing is that as with all new bosses, they generally want to bring their man in. Tuchel is from the old guard and after a CL win a few seasons ago, you can't just go sacking a manager, you need enough rope first. I can't think of any new chairman who have come in and not sacked the old manager within the first sight of trouble if not straight away (surprised roman even gave ranieiri a season tbh). As for the signings: Fofana looks good but never for 70m. Ridiculous money. Koubibaly, never seen him play, looks okayish but needs to settle in. 30m ain't bad for someone who was going to cost us 50+ a few years back.. Only thing is he's getting on a bit (31). Sterling - i quite like the look of sterling tbh. He's an upgrade on any of our wingers at the moment (ziyech blows hot and cold, Pulisic has fallen off a cliff and is a very streaky player, Werner is 5x worse than sterling, both dodgy finishers but sterling can actually hold the ball up and not lose it left right and centre and can win free kicks) Cucurella is a big waste of money. Tidy 6/10,7/10 player but he's like paolo ferreira, just don't see much coming from him. Auba - another vanity waste of money imo. At least it was only a swap for alonso and small money. Not really sure what's wrong with the team but we needed a real striker and we're still in the sarri mode of passing it around aimlessly. Hoping we get potter
Really strange one. Came in, and immediately won the CL. Good achievement. Formed a solid defence since then though just seems to have gone downhill. Yes got to 2 cup finals, but does seem like a very much cup manager in that aspect. Think I read his first 50 games you’d conceded about 20 goals. The next 54 has conceded 54. Obviously lost a couple players this year but it seems the more he coached, the worse you got which is an odd one. Maybe he tried to adapt his style to be more expansive and score goals as kept being labelled a s steak tat couldn’t score and in doing so, impacted them solid defence? I think Potter would be crazy to go there right now. He’s a guy that needs time to develop things and not entirely sure chelsea is the club for that. The new guy may make them that, but atm, seem just as trigger happy as Roman. And no chance potter gets 4 years to build a team and style.
I've seen koulibaly many times and he's never ever stood out as a "70mil" CB as napoli were asking when we paid for vvd and no other big club went near him for last 5 years. I just think you've bought kurt zouma again. bit of a donkey on the ball, seen him skinned several times. its a step down form rudiger imo. I never ever understood lampard wanting rid of rudiger. NOR fans backing lampard on it. the rest? well.... i think theres a lot more in the players you had that a consistent starting place and backing would solve. cururella for chilwell? meh. fofana in for silva long term? I never rated christensen as i thought him error prone but he's no worse than fofana. Klopp would love a pressing machine like mount for midfield, and he'd love to have pulisic and ziyech as his wide forwards. He'd make a job of that i can tell you.
Maybe they arent being trained right (pulisic and ziyech) but pulisic for all his technical talents is super lightweight and full of bad decision making. Ziyech is inconsistent. Hasnt really had a run but he should theoretically be at his peak. Rudiger should deffo have played more under fat frank but he was pretty inconsistent. Under tuchel he was an absolute beast but we lost him for sanction reasons. I don't think klopp would do much with puli. Mount for me is played too far forward. I dont know why we don't put him in the midfield 3. Same with havertz at false 9. Hes not a superstar yet but very good We will see what the new manager does.
Have this conversation with mate who is a chelsea fan. Havertz seems like the perfect number 10 behind a front man in a 4231 type formation. Or 433 with 2 DMs behind him maybe. But chelsea seem to not trust him in CM, he’s not a wide player so left with sticking him as a false 9 and doesn’t know how to play it. Scored a few goals but not enough to be a number 9 and doesn’t offer enough link up like firmino did for us when he wasn’t scoring. Mount out wide is another never understood. Not quick or skilful enough to be a winger. But very good CM to get on the ball, drive forward and play a pass. But again 523 doesn’t leave a space for him in that midfield as wanted Kante and one of Jorginho or kovacic. Seem to have the players for 433 albeit does maybe leave thiago a bit more exposed. Mendy James Fofana Silva Chilwell Mount Kante Kovacic Sterling Auba Pulisic
pulisic is quick and he's missed some howelrs against us. I think personally theres a huge issue when you are dropped in the win or bust mentality as a kid. Cheslea is win or feed to dogs. Klopp puts arm round and says so what you missed. I am very confident he's improve the lad but the lad went for the money and thats that with klopp. Ziyech 100% should be at peak, again a very capable lad but in and out dropeped, not dropped dpeending and not really given backing. your managers have backed mount which is fine but for me mount would be 4 times the player elliott is and ideal as a proper no 8 for us pressing like mad. He misses too much to be put close to goal anyway Havertz, again you are right, bought too young, too much money and played too far forward and expects too much then out of him. If klopp got his hands on you he's love james, chilwell, kante, mount, ziyech, pulisic and theres bag and bag and bags of attacking talent there. I can't see quite how Poch would do it, comparing to spurs he did get a tune out of alli and son with kane as direct running style but for me it'd be another more of the same defensive coach.
silva out kouilbaly in but theres loads of options there. sterling would have a fit if he thought he was stuck wide right so **** him out of play him instead of pulisic etcetc. you are bang on with havertz. a 10. not a false 9,. klopp would make him firmino mark ii though....
MITO desperately trying to sell Klopp to Bobby for the Chelsea job. Things aint that bad at yours mate
