Probably deflecting this thread on a tangent, but lots of people around here built their own 'Garden Bars', or converted their garages during the lockdown and have continued to use them. I'm in the process of getting one built in my garden - but mine will be a stone-built 'summerhouse' rather than a shack built out of pallets (nothing wrong with that BTW - its just that I have the space and the materials to build something more solid) I predict that as the cost of living bites and drinking in pubs becomes prohibitively expensive, home garden bars will be the new way to socialise.
my local ...been in the family for 3 generations [ not mine! ] has always been very affable when pricing. When first went there you could get a cheese and onion roll and 5 pints for 10/- [ ten bob or 50p in new money ] Had 1 pint and a cheese and onion roll last night, gone up a bit .. had £3 change for a tenner! that means my 5 pints and a roll is now costing 14 times as much and to have had another 4 pints would have been x 40 [ £23 ]. A lot of pubs I frequent ARE NOW SELLING AT SAME PRICE £4 A PINT.. when chatting about rising prices answer is 4 is = to 2 for the halves multiplies easily! In 2022 it has gone from £3. 30p / £3.45p / 3.60p [ lowest prices in 3 of them ] to £4
Do you think that that incident was a foul? I actually thought Moyes was quite restrained!! God knows how much NP would have been fined had that been against us.
Theres always been fouls get over it Moyesy woysie. if the player did top him he can stil get banned later. you lot have got your var and your still moaning like bitches(can i say that anymore??) everything is somebodies else fault. NP another whiner wasnt whining about the one we got at Cardiff. That the game Nige. Get on with it and now you are.
Murphy and Shearer were apoplectic about refereeing standards last night. They didn't tell the managers to stop whining, as Murphy did with Pearson, just ridiculed the decisions made. Double standards I'm afraid.
Standards. Its in their interests when referee efficiency has improved to slam referee performances. Alan Shearer does NOT know some of the rules of football. Contact is not a foul and players cannot challenge a goal keeper when they are not in a playable distance of the ball Mr Shearer.
that will even itself out unless wont it you believe there are conspiracies against teams?? City might not have won against cardiff if the ref had given cardiff that decision!!
Moyes was right to be upset it was a bad decision not to allow the goal. His job might have depended on these crappy officials still getting it wrong week in week out Huddersfield were also robbed of a point on Saturday when they scored and the technology failed to tell the ref the ball had crossed the line It's all pretty pathetic
Why are the offficials crap? Because they made an error? So every player making an error is crap? Every Manager? Officials will lose jobs for consistent poor performance. Moyes may want to think about the effect his remarks and his disrepect has on the game. The disrepect shown and tolerated has a butterfly effect.
Sorry, I don't agree. It would be bad enough if such mistakes were made on Sunday morning at local league level. To see professional officials repeatedly make nonsense decisions in front of a worldwide audience, in what is supposed to be the greatest league in the world just makes the whole thing a farce.
Players constantly cheating, diving, and going down at the slightest of touches like they’ve been shot doesn’t help refs to make decisions. Maybe players and clubs should look at this rather than blame refs and VAR all the time? Look at Mendy from Chelsea; he went down at the slightest of touches as he missed the ball and was out his goal. He did so knowing that West Ham would likely score, and the ref would give the "foul" on the keeper; Mendy should have been booked for play-acting. Get the players in order to give the officials half a chance!
I totally agree. But it's been going on for years and the FA have literally done FA about it despite it contributing to the spoiling of our national game. Back to the days of Klinsmann's arrival in England, who threw himself down at every opportunity playing for Spurs. Is that where it all started ? The authorities should have taken a tough stance on it then as it was something that hadn't been really seen in the English game before, although we'd all seen national teams such as Italy, Argentina, and Uruguay take part in thuggery and cheating many times on TV, plus certain uncompromising European league teams in the cup competitions. But instead it's been allowed to largely go unchallenged, and instead of threatening teams with huge fines, points deductions or playing a few of their home matches behind closed doors when players are caught cheating, and to clean up the game and set an example, it's been largely ignored. Point I'm trying to make is that the image and reputation of the English game could easily be improved.
Yes, you do not agree. So, any Manager making an error is crap? Any player making a error is crap? How do you measure refs performance? It is measured. If a ref is crap he will be demoted. How would a level seven ref in Sunday league not make more mistakes than a EPL ref who has gone through a extensive development process? The liinear gradiing leading to elite level is based upon competency and proficiency, isn't it? Refs progress up levels of reffing because they do not make lots of mistakes. If these refs did make as many errors as you state they fail assessment at levels related to their abilities.
In the Var 'room' you have refs judging the refs decisions. So the blind are leading the blind. Until you get ex pros in the Var 'room' chaos will continue. Folk on here can go round the houses but ffs the only answer is to employ ex pros. Or me
I'm not sure where you want to go with this ? Refs, Players, Managers, supporters and electronics, all make mistakes or fail completely, but the overall control of a game is in the hands of 1 person (plus another or two remotely in Stockley Park if we're talking VAR), and that is the referee. If these occasions of ruining players, Managers and supporters days by making rubbish judgement calls were a once in a season event it would still be once too many, but over the weekend just gone there were 3 events that cost 3 separate teams what could turn out to be invaluable points and possibly affect their goal difference too. Imagine if you are David Moyes and West Ham miss the Europa League or whatever by 1 point at the end of the season and that in turn costs them £5m in lost revenue. I don't think the level of failure with referees, VAR and the goal line technology is acceptable when decisions, even with the benefit of video replay are still being made incorrectly. I'd rather scrap VAR and let the game flow, instead of stopping games, examining footage and still getting it wrong.
