1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Awful officiating

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by ToonArmy1892, Aug 29, 2022.

  1. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    Explain why he's wrong then please? This is the point every idiot can see these calls.

    tenor (14).gif
     
    #401
    NUforever likes this.
  2. Arfa Pint of Lager

    Arfa Pint of Lager Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2012
    Messages:
    252
    Likes Received:
    227
    Cricket seems to get around the major controversies with the video umpire by having the 'umpires call' option, ie. if and lbw decision is marginal then it goes back to the umpires original decision, this could work with the 'big toe nail' offsides, debatable penalties etc. where no one can make a decision, if no VAR decision has been made after 30 seconds just go with the referees original decision. How come Rugby gets it so right and football so wrong...... is it accountability, all decisions are shown live on the big screen and the ref is mic'ed so the crowd can hear everything (wouldn't be a bad idea in football)
     
    #402
  3. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
    Cricket will have corruption in it, but the money involved is peanuts in comparison.

    People can think up as many idea as they like, but it won't stop the corruption.. The real issue has to be identified and dealt with.
     
    #403
  4. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 22, 2011
    Messages:
    72,383
    Likes Received:
    27,310
    Havent watched it. Was a joke that Jamie o hara generally talks a lot of **** when ever I’ve heard him speaking about stuff in the past

    but nevermind…
     
    #404
  5. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    Exactly, but he can see those calls are wrong can't he?
     
    #405
  6. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 22, 2011
    Messages:
    72,383
    Likes Received:
    27,310
    If the whole thing is corrupt why not go watch non league football and support them? If the whole of professional football is corrupt and your not enjoying it, then don’t put yourself through the torture of watching.
     
    #406
  7. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    You've been claiming its all just bad decisions while dismissing any rationale that corruption plays a part. Its high level sport with huge amounts of money involved..

    You've just said Ohara is wrong about everything, so I told you he was right on those var calls.

    I'm asking you how stupid a person would have to be to make such mistakes?

    To answer your question! It's awareness that changes things, not ignorance... Hopefully I'm allowed to speak my opinion as you are too.
     
    #407
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2022
  8. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
    There has long been overwhelming evidence of corruption in football: from the many hidden conflicts of interest in club and player ownership, to the prevalence of match fixing and the stark lack of accountability of football associations, both national and global. In each case, people in the game make money.

    tenor (14).gif
     
    #408
  9. G4rdToonArmy

    G4rdToonArmy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2011
    Messages:
    7,942
    Likes Received:
    5,148
    Live and communicated reviews are the only way to make it better. Hear what the rationale is behind the decisions. I'd love to know what they spoke about with Willocks "foul"?

    Maybe a panel of 3 - an ex ref and an ex player from each team - majority verdict wins.

    If they get it so wrong that it's almost unbelievable it probably isn't a big jump to deliberately getting these huge decisions wrong...

    The Wilson high foot vs Brighton - 2 points lost
    The Stones elbow no way near the ball on Schar in the box - 2 points lost
    The foul by Mitchell on Willock given the wrong way - 2 points lost

    ****ing disgraceful
     
    #409
    mickeybnufc likes this.
  10. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2011
    Messages:
    14,068
    Likes Received:
    12,002
    Third comment is spot on: just how stupid would Lee Mason actually have to be to get that call wrong? It’s illogical - he’s a professional referee and a human being with eyes and the ability to breathe. Stands to reason he knows the correct decision which leaves only one logical explanation as to why he came to an incorrect one; corruption.
     
    #410

  11. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30,155
    Likes Received:
    17,293
    When points are being lost on these shocking decisions with no accountability then that’s the issue.

    It’s Interesting that the ones who don’t mind these things happening are the fans of the top six clubs. They don’t mind because they know they go in their favour. This weekend being a perfect example.
     
    #411
    G4rdToonArmy likes this.
  12. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30,155
    Likes Received:
    17,293
  13. Shearers Right Boot

    Shearers Right Boot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2011
    Messages:
    423
    Likes Received:
    382
    I wonder what the legal standpoint is on this. They can't just keep messing up decisions like this and just apologising without doing something to correct it. Imagine if a club got relegated through dodgy decisions? It could cost a clubs millions through idiots piss farting about trying to get something right. They need to get this sorted.
     
    #413
  14. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30,155
    Likes Received:
    17,293
    That’s the issue: I’m sure it’s already happened aswell. Didn’t Sheff Utd score a perfectly good goal against Villa and goal like tech wasn’t switched on?
     
    #414
  15. ToonArmy1892

    ToonArmy1892 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2021
    Messages:
    18,065
    Likes Received:
    15,511
    Something like that, Villa got a point when they should have lost then stayed up by one point.
     
    #415
    Prince Isak (GG) likes this.
  16. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30,155
    Likes Received:
    17,293
    This is the issue. Although that is not VAR it’s the people who govern the rules who keep ****ing up.

    VAR isn’t broke but I bet you there is a lot of people making money out of it.
     
    #416
  17. Maximin Effort

    Maximin Effort Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    2,084
    Likes Received:
    1,515
    Unless match fixing can be proven then I highly doubt there is any legal position on it.

    There needs to be change, that is for sure but I'm not sure what the incentive for change is at the top. The only thing that may do it is the lack of referees in the game at the moment. The PGMOL has to make being a ref more attractive. To me the way to do it is to make decisions transparent and to make surrounding the ref a yellow card offence. Eventually you'd hope that would feed down to lower levels
     
    #417
  18. ToonArmy1892

    ToonArmy1892 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2021
    Messages:
    18,065
    Likes Received:
    15,511
    The problem is we all piss and moan but nothing changes or gets done about it..no amount of words in the media is going to get us these points back, and eventually it just dies down again and that's that.
     
    #418
  19. JakartaToon

    JakartaToon Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 1, 2014
    Messages:
    16,476
    Likes Received:
    19,748
    Problem is that we don't piss and moan if it goes for us, on dubious calls, so everybody assumes it's working just fine and players, managers and fans are inherently biased.
     
    #419
  20. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    There you go again speaking for all of us.

    Nothing really goes for or against us that's not really how it works..<confused>



    200.gif
     
    #420

Share This Page