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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    What if that means others do less well ?
     
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  2. vic9

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    Why do you always complicate and twist opinions?, I’m simply saying what’s wrong with someone working their balls off every day,paying their taxes and not pissing every money they earn up the wall
     
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  3. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    As if I’m complicating things. It’s relatively simple just not as simple as your line. There is a finite amount of money and as people take more and pay less tax others earn less pay more and some become a financial burden because of their poverty and it’s impact.
    So people earn less share more and things get nicer for all rather than a few. That’s pretty simple.
     
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  4. vic9

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    Well here’s a simple question, do you have a problem with people doing well for themselves?
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

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    If you don't mind I'd answer that question.

    I don't mind anyone doing well on merit.

    I do mind people, like Boris Johnson, having endless leg ups and doing well despite their misgivings.

    He's a knacker who's only achieved success because of who he is, not what he is ...

    .. if it was what he is he'd be in a cardboard box on the embankment.
     
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  6. The Exile II

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    There will be several excellent Tory constituency MPs who fully deserve the votes they get. Same across all parties. Unfortunately the system stops exactly these kind of people getting to the front benches.
     
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  7. Pure River Slut

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    It’s not a simple question really because it depends on your definition of ‘doing well for themselves’. I don’t see why any individual should have a million pound in the bank when others struggle, if almost everyone ‘does well for them self’ no I’ve no problem with it at all
     
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  8. vic9

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    But that also raises the question why should hard working people be penalised for some people who don’t help themselves
     
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    That’s my point ON MERIT
     
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    Tomorrow is farewell Boris, lies laughs and cockups you supplied them all. Politics will be sadly duller without you:emoticon-0160-movie
     
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    And doubt it will be any better.
     
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  12. Pure River Slut

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    Many people can’t. Isn’t that greed ? Why wouldn’t you want to help someone else ? Here defines why the Conservative Party get elected by the way
     
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  13. rooch 3

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    So what do you think of people who can but are just bone idle, do you want me to share what I’ve worked for with them?
     
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  14. Pure River Slut

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    Does bone idle mean demotivated? Or is it different ? Is bone idle where you choose to be in poverty ?
     
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  15. rooch 3

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    No bone idle is when you are simply a lazy bastard who wants everything for nothing and won’t get off their arse to earn a living.
     
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  16. Pure River Slut

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    See I think there’s a fine line between someone who is lazy and someone who can’t motivate themselves or organise themselves. There’s normally a reason why- anxiety freezes people, depression makes you immobile, lack of confidence makes you anxious, then there’s the issue of working hard to be skint and being treated worse than ****e. Better to engage people and work out the way forward than batter them with intolerance. Of course tough love helps at times but not where it creates poverty, trauma, instability. The Tories peddle that - winner v waster, dehumanising people which in turn means their own wealth is retained not shared. Me- I think people who buy all that and think that are ****ers. Let’s be honest there are a few on here think I’m a ****er but it’s what I believe.
     
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    Of course you help the people who can’t FFS,you know I was on about the people who can,why do you always generalise people when it’s for your side of a debate?
    Here defines why the Conservative Party have no opposition by the way
     
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  18. Pure River Slut

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    You clearly just don’t like my answers and I’m doing your head in so don’t ask.
    You can’t consider people getting wealthy without considering why they are wealthy and who it costs. Or I can’t anyway.
     
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  19. rooch 3

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    I just wished I lived in your little world mate, it must be bliss. When I lived in Lincolnshire I new loads of lads who took pride in being idle buggers, who had no intention of working and thought it funny that I was stupid enough to work. You obviously have never come across these people, it’s a mystery how you haven’t because there’s thousands of the buggers. Maybe they don’t exist in your imaginary world.
     
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  20. vic9

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    Doing my head in!!!
    Making me shake my head with puzzlement,you come across as a bitter man
     
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