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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  2. Get out

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    Spot the Moron #236

    Grant Shapps, Transport Secretary interviewed in today’s Times responded to one of those little this or that questionnaires.
    Q. Ryanair or British Airways?
    A. British Airways. It’s British!
    FACT: British Airways is part of IAG, an Anglo Spanish joint venture, with its registered head office in Madrid. It is Spanish for tax purposes. Both it’s chairman and chief executive are Spanish. It is quoted on both the London and Madrid stock exchanges. Qatar Airways owns 25% of the stock. Iberia, Aer Lingus, Vueling and BMI are also part of the group. Presumably the Transport Secretary thinks these airlines are ‘British’ too.

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    Kelvin MacKenzie
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    On April 14
    @PritiPatel
    announced a plan to send Channel migrants to Rwanda.
    Since then the number has grown by 19,878,
    towns the size of Lewes or Leek.
    915 arrived yesterday.
    It's a problem up there with energy but neither Truss or Sunak show any interest.
    Shocking.
     
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    BA has its headquarters in London. He should have said it was more British than Ryanair
     
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    Truss has said she will bring in a Bill of Rights to take precedence over the European Court of Human Rights. She has two years until the next GE to do it. If she doesn't, the Tories have no hope of another term imo
     
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    With Britain on the verge of complete collapse, Boris Johnson has taken a break from his holidays to undertake a farewell tour of the country to 'defend his record' as PM.

    What a ****.
     
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    Got to give the big nonce’s sycophants an opportunity to show their appreciation before Liz Thatcher’s reign of incompetence. At least Rangers are nailed on for a comfortable home win.
     
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    Callum

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    My mum owns a small café in Leicester.
    Her electricity bill has just jumped from £10k ($12k) a year to £55k ($64k) a year.
    She is working out her options but more than likely she will be forced to close.


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    063B901F-C11E-438F-BE8F-D9B9C143F30E.jpeg This tickled my ****strings.
     
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    A workers picks up draft barrels of beer from a horse-drawn delivers to a pub in Windsor, England, on April 28, 2022. (Daniel Leal/AFP via Getty Images)
    UK
    Energy Crisis Will Hit Pubs Harder Than Lockdowns, Say Industry Bosses
    By Owen Evans

    August 30, 2022 Updated: August 30, 2022
    energy bills, with upwards of 300 percent price hikes possible, UK brewery and pub bosses have warned.

    Leaders of six of the country’s largest breweries and pub businesses involved in the British Beer and Pub Association (BBPA) are pressuring the government to take immediate action over skyrocketing prices.

    Some English pubs date as far back as the 8th century, having served beer through Viking raids, the Black Death, and the Second World War.

    But many were forced to call last orders during national lockdowns that caused closures and reduced demand.

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    Chief executives of JW Lees, Carlsberg Marston’s, Admiral Taverns, Drake & Morgan, Greene King, and St. Austell Brewery, who sit on the board of the BBPA, called for an urgent support package that effectively caps the price of energy for businesses to avoid what they called “real and serious irreversible” damage to the industry.

    In an open letter to Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Tuesday (pdf), they highlighted a recent report that found one licensee of a small community pub had a £33,000 increase in its energy costs over the previous year.

    Nick Mackenzie, the boss of Greene King, one of the UK’s largest pub groups with over 3,100 pubs, said in a statement that pubs face “being unable to pay their bills, jobs being lost and beloved locals across the country forced to close their doors, meaning all the good work done to keep pubs open during the pandemic could be wasted.”

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    A member of staff of the Bulls heads pub hangs a bunting on the facade of the bar, as preparations get underway for the forthcoming Platinum Jubilee celebrations for Queen Elizabeth II, in Bidford-On-Avon, central England, on May 27, 2022. (Ben Stansall/AFP via Getty Images)
    The bosses also pointed to a perfect storm of surging commodity prices and a doubling in the cost of malt, as well as CO2, gas, and energy costs nearly tripling since 2019, which Paul Davies, CEO of Carlsberg Marston’s, said will be a “crisis far graver than that which we faced during the COVID lockdowns of the past few years.”

    Emma McClarkin, chief executive of the BBPA, said, “This rise in energy costs will cause more damage to our industry than the pandemic did if nothing is done in the next few weeks, consumers will now be thinking even more carefully about where they spend their money.”

    “There are pubs that weathered the storm of the past two years that now face closure because of rocketing energy bills for both them and their customers,” she added.

    Oldest Pubs
    Martin Robinson, co-owner of Ye Olde Fighting Cocks pub in St. Albans, told The Epoch Times that his gas and electric bills had increased from £1,800 a month to £5,500.

    Robinson said the high energy prices almost made it “pointless to be open,” adding that another planned increase in October by 80 percent could “wipe everyone out.”

    “I think people don’t realise how many places are about to close,” he said.

    “We burn gas around six hours a day, we haven’t even started using the central heating,” he said. “Firewood may be cheaper than gas to keep the place warm which is just crazy when you think about it,” he added.

    Reputed to be the oldest pub in England, Ye Olde Fighting Cocks claims to have been in business since 793 AD, though the main structure of the building was built in the 11th century and originally used as a pigeon house.

    “The idea of the traditional pub, a lot of that is going to go,” Robinson said. “We are quite lucky, we are in an affluent area, we have tourism here. But the standard village country pub, they are going to go, and not be around anymore.”

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    A member of staff at a Wetherspoons pub in north London cleans glasses in preparation for pubs to reopen early next month on June 24, 2020. (Tolga Akmen/AFP via Getty Images)
    Lack of Footfall
    Rita McCluskey, the licensee of Adam and Eve, the oldest pub in Norwich, told The Epoch Times that she was “not particularly confident” and “didn’t really don’t know what can be done.”

    She has owned the pub for 22 years, which was first recorded as an alehouse in 1249. McCluskey said she has also been hit by the large energy costs as well as a lack of footfall from current strikes from barristers and the railway industry.

    “The last thing I want is for this to close,” she said. “Everything is in the air because nobody will make a decision until the new PM is in power. Things are really up in the air. It’s all speculation.”

    A government spokesman told The Epoch Times by email that “no national government can control the global factors pushing up the price of energy and other business costs,” but that it will continue to support the hospitality sector in navigating the months ahead.

    “That includes providing a 50 percent business rates relief for businesses across the UK, freezing alcohol duty rates on beer, cider, wine, and spirits, and reducing employer national insurance. This is in addition to the billions in grants and loans offered throughout the pandemic,” he said.
     
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    if you cant afford proper food and are thinking minced bugs would be a cheaper alternative book a table in the house of commons

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    It’s ****ing obvious that energy costs have to be frozen through government subsidy otherwise the economy will collapse, small businesses aren’t protected in any way, and as they close the tax take drops and it’s an endless doom spiral. Take the energy inflation out of the system and the inevitable knock on effects of using energy to do anything are also reduced. Other stuff in play, but this is the thing that the government can actually do, along with following the EU in decoupling the electricity price from gas wholesale prices, why should we pay as if all our electricity is generated by gas when it isn’t.

    Or the Sunak/Truss whoever strategy for inflation could be like their heroine Thatcher - take demand out of the system by letting companies collapse and unemployment soar and blame the unions/workers.
     
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    Huge if true.

     
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    has boris got any more money saving tips
    which brand of kettle does he recommend
     
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    Wish he'd stick his head in a kettle, would be a good look for the buffoon....don't care how long it takes to boil his head dry
     
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    What a prick
     
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