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  1. Supcon72

    Supcon72 Well-Known Member

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    Rose Tints from his good days there. Many on here would have had Steve Cotterill back after LJ left, but not me. Different times, a different group of players.now as well, and more importantly, different and elevated expectations than when he was there before.
     
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  2. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    Really?
    It BECAME like that later under his tenure - that I agree, but I thought the way we were playing around the time of our amazing cup run was some of the most exciting football I'd seen at AG since our playoff final days under GJ.
    It started to 'stagnate' after our defeat to Wolves (which we should have won) and by the end he'd run out of ideas and it was right that he went, but ALL his football wasn't boring.

    As for the 'thousands' who were bored stiff - I didn't see any of them yawning that night at Ashton Gate when we beat Man U - or at Man C for the following 2 games. Maybe they were all around your house helping you prepare your banner?

    Your mate and his daughter (plus some posters on here) didn't renew their season tickets out of protest at LJ - that's their choice - but ST sales were on the increase throughout that period, so for every person making that 'protest' there were 3 or 4 new ST holders buying into the future of the club to replace them. New blood and all that.........

    I AM pleased with how we are starting to look under Nige and long may that continue - and I wouldn't want to go back to those days - but they weren't as bad as some people make out with successive top-half finishes and a magical cup run.
     
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  3. Supcon72

    Supcon72 Well-Known Member

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    I must have missed that football when we were pressing high and beating Prem teams on our cup run and finishing in the higher echelons of the Championship each year. If anyone played boring football, it was NP last season, it was dire in the extreme, You won't see it as you are in the anyone is better than having LJ here camp. Most of the rest of us see it for what it is, a manager who has underachieved so far. His history is just that; it's about the here and now in football. I have said all along, that I hope he does well, but he's halfway through his 3 years, and we are by no means certain of looking at making the playoffs, even in a season where it's one of the most open leagues for a very long time.
     
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  4. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

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    Bristol City Final League positions _
    2015/16...........18th
    2016/17...........17th
    2017/18...........11th
    2018/19..........08th
    2019/20..........12th
    2020/21..........19th
    2021/22..........17th

    When you think of the trials and tribulations, the mass signings, overall financial transactions, ending up in 2020/21 with a £38.4m loss I don't think the MA/LJ regime was particularly successful for Bristol City FC.
     
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  5. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Have a read guys-wiz on the button-early years were much better under LJ-LATER YEARS SHOCKING.
     
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  6. Supcon72

    Supcon72 Well-Known Member

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    A lot better than the 2 since they left...... Plus the 20/21 loss was down to COVID, and loss of income, not down to them. The season before, they turned a £10m profit from all trades and wages, something nobody else in the Championship managed.
     
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  7. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Basso was in goal on the day of your visit apparently. The team was Basso, Carey, McAllister, McCombe, Orr, LJ, Mcindoe, Skuse, Williams, Adebole, and Maynard.

    On our trip in 2002 when we lost 5-1, their stadium was also being refurbished, and we were stood along one side of the ground with a semi circular corrugated roof which was full of holes above us. Some of the City fans that used to sit close to us in the Dolman Stand were throwing their City shirts on the pitch at half time, that's how bad we were, yet oddly we could have been 2-0 up by the time they got their first, then the flood gates opened. We were chasing the playoffs at the time and were well placed.
    The team that day was Stowell, Carey, Coles, Burnell, Bell, Brown, Doherty, Murray, Robinson, Peacock, Roberts. Tony Thorpe came off the bench to score our goal in the 81st minute.

    After the match we went to a local chip shop for something to eat before heading home and the owner took great delight in telling us how grateful Blackpool were for the 3 points and how we'd needed them for our playoff push !

    Thanks then !
     
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  8. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

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    According to these figurest the season before thay made a £10.1m loss not profit, I agree Covid helped wiped out a big percentage of the profits but as you frequently point out that applies to all clubs.
    https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/city-announce-202021-accounts/

    KEY POINTS FROM BRISTOL CITY HOLDINGS LTD*



      • Pre-tax loss = £38.4m (2020 = £10.1m loss)
      • Profit on disposal of players = £6.2m (2020 = £25.6m)
      • Matchday revenue = £0.7m (2020 = £4.8m)
      • Net liabilities = £19.1m (2020 net assets = £5.1m)
    *Bristol City Holdings Limited incorporates Bristol City Football Club Limited and Ashton Gate Limited
     
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  9. Tom_BCFC

    Tom_BCFC Billy Bibbit Forum Moderator

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    I liked Steve Cotterill but if he stayed we would have been back in league one.

    "For instance, if we’d been turned over tonight making seven changes people would moan about that, people always want to moan about something, I just let them.

    must of been talking about Red Robin here <laugh>
     
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  10. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    It was a period of months.

    The majority of Mr Johnsons time saw the team defending with medium to low blocks. The high pressing epitomised Mr Johnsons football as the happy accident was quickly abandoned.

    A case of what could have been.
     
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  11. Supcon72

    Supcon72 Well-Known Member

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    I think using the term “happy accident”is a bit disingenuous tbh, you are clearly in the LJ haters camp…. We could say the same now, that NP has only found some form via the same means?
     
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  12. Redprintt

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    LJ said moving Bobby Reid up top was down to injuries to others.
    The difference, not that it matters, Conway usually plays up top.

    Bloody hell, we're in a decent run, lets enjoy it and stop harping back.
    Who knows, it's very early days and Blackpool could stuff us this w/e and we'll be back to normal.
     
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  13. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    I’ve seen this statement on the Bristol City Till I die group. Now I know where he got it from.
     
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  14. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    I’m with you mate.. LJ sending Reid up top was genius.. the haters admitting this ( even though I’ve pointed out the article many times why) will never happen, the hate is embedded far too deep..
    NP ever to do similar, in their eyes would have freedom of the City!!
     
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  15. Supcon72

    Supcon72 Well-Known Member

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    I’m not on that group mate, merely my observations. It’s not a hard conclusion to draw, so I’m sure others have thought the same if I have.
     
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  16. Red Alert

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    Haii the Lee Johnson pressing machine of Diony Duric Famara and Kent. Legends of the high press!!
     
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  17. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    Just silly.
     
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  18. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    Of course it is!!!
     
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  19. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Pointing out what the factual, and that if players had not been injured (an accident) this would not have occurred is not hatred.

    Four individuals costing large sums who could not take part in, or progress Mr Johnsons temporary pressing football.
     
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  20. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    I hope Nige takes us where nobody else has been able to since Alan Dicks
     
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