If we sell Cucho, Dennis, Pedro then Sarr I am a bit worried the owners just want to cash in a sell up.
I doubt that really - it's just the way it is in football, players come and go. Cucho apparently wanted to go, so there's little sense in hanging on to an unhappy player. Dennis leaving actually seems to be a good thing due to his rumoured poor attitude - an attitude which led to his previous club offloading him to us. It was really inevitable that Sarr would leave - the surprise is that he stayed after the first relegation a couple of years back. Losing Pedro would hurt us the most in my opinion, which is why the club are determined to hang onto him as long as possible. But if he realises his potential it's inevitable that he will move on to a bigger club. It simply looks like we just have to keep unearthing gems - such as Asprilla and hopefully the new Brazilian guy Martin's we are trying to sign.
Unless Pedro has stated he wants to move on, I think it would be foolish of Watford to sell him if we lose Sarr on top of the others. After all, it was the CEO who openly stated we do not have to sell ( financially wise)
Rob Edwards said - in his press conference today - that there have been no bids for Sarr. He also described the offer from Newcastle for João Pedro as derisory and nowhere near the level that they would expect, but that they will sit down and talk about it as a club and as a board if another bid oomes in. https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/20670526.watford-boss-responds-speculation-sarr-joao-pedro/ There has been almost mass hysteria on social media about the possibility of losing João Pedro and some unjustified criticism of Gino Pozzo. There has been one bid from Newcastle (which was rejected) and the club have said that João Pedro is not for sale. All reports agree that João Pedro is not pushing for a move. Personally I am fairly confident that he will stay, although I can not be certain. There have been a lot of conflicting reports about talks and a second bid, but all of them seeming to be originating from Newcastle and, possibly, João Pedro's agent. Andrew French wrote in a tweet that he knows (from his own experience) that this is standard practice to unsettle a player. Alex Crook (TalkSport journalist) spoke recently with Eddie Howe and he claims that Newcastle are weighing up whether to make a second bid. Crook thinks that they have only got £40 million to spend and that they still want two in: “Two forward players, one wide player and a backup for Callum Wilson.” Newcastle fans have noted similarities to other transfer dealings at Newcastle when the club has claimed to be confident of reaching a deal (as - for example - in the case of Ekitike, who was eventually signed by PSG). The tone of Chroniclelive (the online part of the Newcastle newspaper) has changed and reports have appeared in the Telegraph and in a tweet by Luke Edwards (the Telegraph's Northern Football Writer) that Newcastle are now worried that Watford will dig their heels in and not allow the forward to leave this summer.
And that’s why he’s not worth selling. He is worth much to us by securing return to the Premiership, which is worth many times more than 40m.
Unless either we get desperate and accept a lower offer for Sarr or someone offers 30-40 million he won’t go. Pedro not so sure unfortunately but clearly we are keen to hold onto him .
Whether or not we will lose Sarr (this season, at least) is debatable. When West Ham were chasing Dennis, their fan sites talked about Moyes undertaking background checks on him - which eventually saw them lose interest due to his poor attitude. They also, rightly or wrongly, mentioned the same about Sarr, which may be putting clubs off. Having said that, we still managed to offload Dennis, so anything is possible.
Oh dear - as I feared agents potentially turning Pedro’s head? But they won’t get him for 22 million !!
Maybe it is time for Watford to play hardball Tell Pedro to put in a transfer request if he wants to leave If Newcastle dont offer a minimum of £40m plus add ons then put Pedro in the under 23's and then next year transfer him to Udinese Unless I am mistaken we took him AND his family from one of the poorest regions off Brazil and did everything in our power to help him and his family settle in to England As for demanding Premier League football this year he actually did less than Dennis or Sarr to keep us up last year and is nowhere near the finished article
The second bid for João Pedro was £22 million (with £3 million in add-ons) according to Adam Leventhal. Interesting that it was rejected so quickly, which confirms the idea that Watford do not want to sell JP and that the bid was nowhere near the value which they might consider. I wonder whether Newcastle are trying to unsettle JP because I doubt that the suggestion that Watford would accept £30 million has come from the club. Perhaps Newcastle want to give the impression to him that they have made a fair offer, but that Watford are being unreasonable.
We definitely want over 30 and sure if Pedro really wants to leave he will set so but feel it’s more likely his agent talking .
Unfortunately, Newcastle are still persisting with their interest. I hope that JP does not have his head turned and that Watford resist. One or two comments on another forum suggest that Watford will still have a strong squad even if they sell Sarr and Pedro so that they will be able to compete for promotion. I suspect that Watford will be nowhere near the play-off places without those two players - unless they spend money to sign some top quality replacements (which is not the Pozzo way). They are unlikely to sign a regular goal scorer through a loan: both Armstrong and Archer are not available.
https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/20672494.watford-not-second-newcastle-united-bid-joao-pedro/ The plot thickens. The Watford Observer claims that they have been informed by the club that there has not been a second bid. Are the club telling the truth to the Watford Observer or are both Fabrizio Romano (usually quite a reliable source about Watford's transfers) and Adam Leventhal / the Athletic mistaken? I suspect all the news about the second bid is coming from Newcastle. The Athletic has a couple of Newcastle correspondents. Are Newcastle trying to unsettle João Pedro?
Probably are so he hands in a transfer request. Does seem to be some confusion - maybe the Athletic were told Newcastle had put in a bid but the club hadn't received it!
Although I was hoping he wanted stay with us and grow, from the highlights I have seen of the last two games Asprilla has the long term potential to be better than Pedro and Sarr combined
Yes - and was one of the best players on Tuesday too. i get the impression fans generally weren't that bothered about losing Dennis and if Sarr went so be it but Perdo certainly is a crowd favourite and people will be very disappointed to see him leave - some saying he is worth much more than 30 million etc. Do think if Newcastle do get him they'll see Pedro as a long term prospect rather than one to go straight into the team. (And the usual "well he isn't actually all that from some)
That’s exactly how I feel. I think Joao’s a good lad but perhaps not Prem ready - good to get us back there, though, which is the heart of his value, I believe.
Jason Burt (the Telegraph) has confirmed that Newcastle have seen a second bid, worth £23 million, rejected by Watford. He reports that Watford have made their stance clear by telling Newcastle, once again, that João Pedro is not for sale and is key to their promotion challenge this season.
