The sooner the coming home thing is binned the better, anybody found singing it should be jailed or at least given an asbo.
Cannot for the life of me see how you can say that, half the population are women so it can generate exactly the same amount of passion that the mens game can.
As a percentage, I would imagine about 10% of women have any interest at all in football, ( admittedly that could change soon) as for men....well over 50/60%. For me thats why there is a long way to go when it comes to fan base etc
I agree mate, there’s a long way to go but look how far they’ve come in a few years. I haven’t watched England for years because I think they are embarrassing, but I loved yesterday’s game and there will be a lot more like me. I honestly believe this will be bad for the mens game not good. It will dawn on them they are perpetual losers and will be like a millstone round their necks.
Like you say the interest will take a leap forward now. I actually think the challenge they have will be to keep pace with demand now. Take a look at the pyramid for womens football and it doesnt look deep enough. There is a lot of investment around in womens football, but when you look at access to play, or even watch, it is still limited. So if there is a sudden upturn in interest I hope clubs can cope, and indeed more clubs get on board with it.
Wasn't Eni Aluko by any chance, was it? She played the race card when she stopped getting picked for England. Fact was, she wasn't as good as SHE thought she was. We've just won the tournament, that should be justification enough that the players the coach picked were the right ones.
It's not new, or even recent . . . . please log in to view this image This is a photograph of a women’s football match at Loakes Park Football Ground, in 1895. Loakes Park was the original home of Wycombe Wanderers Football Club, and back in 1895 women’s football matches were nothing unusual. They became extremely popular during World War 1, and by 1921 women’s matches attracted bigger crowds than many men’s matches. Alas, between 1921 and 1970 the Football Association banned women’s matches on FA members’ pitches, stating that ‘the game of football is quite unsuitable for females and ought not to be encouraged’ It’s taken decades of commitment from many women to build the game back up.
I think 55 makes some valid points tbh. I think what I would add to it tho is that it's not that the women's game hasn't got the passionate support etc but that it will never have the tribalism.
all i have heard today is how girls were not encouraged to play football, maybe the above post by @Gordon Armstrong goes some way to explain why, but in my village if a girl wanted to join in with the game she was as welcome as any lad. basically it was not considered something girls wanted to do and few lads would have chosen needlework or cookery but things have changed, why can they just not accept that and move on instead of trying to turn every single thing into a major issue, much like the race thing they keep dragging up...england have and have had a few black players and no doubt will have more, i personally would have no problem if all the players, the subs and the coaching staff were all black as long as they were all there on merit. because of this excellent performance from the lasses squad we may well now see more girls wanting to play the game but please, let it grow at it's own pace rather than forcing the issue.
A lot of women will have watched this and realised that this has a lot more in common with them than the mens game.
In my day...I'm 70...at school,it must have been thought that girls weren't up to playing against boys physically,so played other sports which didn't pose that conundrum.....netball,hockey,tennis etc. However,the mistake was that no-one considered that girls could play against each other in,what had previously been considered,a boys sport.As a society young people continue to address,analise and question the previous generation. Hello. It's never been any different.
On the subject of the FA and inclusion for girls, my Granddaughter whose now 19 played in goal for our local club from aged 10 to 16, she represented the County at 14 and we had high hopes for her. Once she became 16 the local FA (South Westmoreland) scrapped all the girl's league's for that age group and several clubs formed a new team to play games in the North Westmoreland league which meant up to two hours travelling for every away game and visa versa for those teams coming to us, they managed one season and disbanded, the local FA did nothing to help so I don't know where this inclusiveness was 3 years ago. the FA spout a load of sh1te about the game their supposed to oversee and that makes me more amazed that we actually won on Sunday.
You have not picked a good example there. This youg lady took the trouble, while a Proffesional Player to study Law at University where she got a First Class Degree in Law, She went on to pass her Bar Exams for England and for USA. So, probably not the best one to have a pop at with any racist 'banter', you might think. When she made her 'official complaint' to The FA, the Barrister that The FA appointed said that there was insufficient evidence of Racism and bullying against her and Drew Spence, but The FA paid her £80k compo. When a Commons Committee got involved the same Barrister was able to confirm that she had been the subject of Racism and Bullying. She recieved full appologies from The FA. We are all entitled to our point of view, but I don't see this as 'playing the Race Card'. I see it as having the guts to stand up and say NO. Enough is ENOUGH. So, with 102 england Caps and 33 goals, she has had to put up with that sort of ignorance. Perhaps she can be forgiven if she seems a bit touchy. In view of her past record she might just be right, but in view of her varied experiences, she must be worth listening too. (If anyone requires any further details, it's all on WIKI).
That's very commendable from her, but that doesn't mean that she didn't 'play the race card' or that 'Bank of England 2' was 'having a pop at her' If it was her (as I said, I don't know) all that I got from the short bit that I listened to before having to switch channels was her whingeing about the lack of black players . . . . obviously accusing those that pick the team of 'not picking her' or people that are the same colour as her - 'cos that's what they should do to 'tick a box' rather than pick the best players to do a job, and represent our country the best that they could ! Perhaps some think that it would be better to pick a team to tick boxes rather than picking the one that won us a trophy that we've never won before . . . . and lifted the spirits of an awful lot of people
Gordon, I rarely disagree with you, but this is one of those times. You are of course allowed to put whatever interpretation you chose on her words, but may I try a different slant and bear in mind her background and experience. Why is your interpretation OBVIOUS. It isn't to me. If we look at the average Prem or CH/Sp Team it will have quite a high proportion of players who are not white. So how come the Girls have so few. This lady, having come through the 'system' has highlighted this lack. This is not whining, it is stating a fact. And asking the question, why are there not more none-white girls taking up the sport seems legitimate enough not to have her lampooned And there is absolutely nothing in her words that deserve the rest of what you said.
