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  1. Plymborn

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    Blimey.....bring back Boris.
     
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    Another Hotel chain owned by James Brent has gone the same way as all other Brent enterprises.

    Suite Hospitality Ltd ...has gone bust owing £4,180,485.....the staff were owed £146,593 ....yet this man stepped into PAFC and kept it afloat.....or did he ?
     
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    Back in April this year he and his wife was subject of story his business empire see rising profits and he got a bonus payday. A few months on one of his empire businesses went bust and other people got stung. You know my opinion of this man and what he "did for 'Argyle" allegedly. The man is a shark and not somebody I would want to share a room with.
     
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    The Observer reports that Johnson skipped a COBRA meeting to discuss the heatwave.

    In fairness, I can remember the 1976 heatwave and we didn't have all this fuss then, even though we had no water to drink, but it does show the man has no character whatsoever. Yes, he's on his way out, but surely you do your duty until the bitter end?
     
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    Are you suggesting that the COBRA meeting went ahead without the leadership of Boris to guide it ?
     
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    Ah the Summer of 1976. I was in the RN and at Chatham where my son was born. Even though not an Instructor the place was a training school and therefore we all had to wear full uniform at all times. Set the example for the trainees and all that. I melted in my blue surge suit with jacket and tie. That year I was drafted to Gibraltar where I got to wear tropical rig. That is shorts and open shirt . It was hotter in the UK than it was in Gibraltar. Gibraltar even had water.

    Anyway enough of all are yesteryears. I noted the abse3nce of Boris at said meeting and to be fair all it did was confirm what I have always known about him. Boris only cares about Boris and his party he was organising was of course far more important than the people he said he was priveleged to serve as leader only a few days ago. I mean, Carrie can't dip out of a do can she. I wonder who paid for his party this time........
     
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    WEATHER WATCH.

    NW Kent.....20.30 pm.....wind getting up and it is trying to RAIN.....noticeable temperature change starting......thunder and lightening in the distance.
     
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    Been there and had that hours ago. Still warm though.
     
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    Hasn't really come to anything....no real rain....and temperature not much lower.
     
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    BASHING BRITAIN, AGAIN.

    Extreme Remainers have gleefully sought to blame Brexit for the nightmarish queues at Dover over the past few days. We did not have these problems when we were in the EU, they claimed. Jumping on an opportunity to paint the UK in the worst possible light, they have attempted to use the border chaos as yet another occasion to refight battles that most of the public thought were resolved years ago.

    But were they to show any curiosity about the facts, they would realise how wrong they are. The UK has never been in the Schengen Area, and so has always operated a border with France for travel purposes. As the former head of Border Force, Tony Smith, writes in today's newspaper, the UK has a bilateral arrangement with the French government passport checks at Dover and Calais. It is facile to blame Brexit, except in relation to French pique that the UK dared to leave the EU.

    Indeed, Doug Bannister, Dover's chief executive, has insisted that the queues "weren't caused by Brexit" at all, but by something far more prosaic. Not all the French immigration booths were open on Friday. When, on Saturday morning, more staff took their positions, the situation eased up...though there was still a backlog on the motorway. Some noted that the French are accused of being slow to facilitate tourists going the other way, in either direction, their bureaucracy is failing.

    Is this how extreme Remainers are going to respond to every practical difficulty ? They used to complain that Eurosceptics pinned everything on the EU. Now they blame everything on Brexit...even, as in the case of the Northern Ireland Protocol, when fault lies squarely with EU leaders.

    Sunday Telegraph...comment page....24/07.2022.


    A fifth column situation can be said to be working in the UK in present times........from the Whitehall mandarins down through every level of government by those remainers that cannot except the voice of the people at the last EU leave or stay vote......voted leave.
     
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  11. notDistantGreen

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    That's nonsense isn't it and typical of the Telegraph.

    We've lost a lot of other rights, including an unfettered right to buy property in the EU and go to live there as a main residence with automatic reciprocal rights to reciprocal medical treatment when needed. The ability to go and live in the sun proved very attractive to a lot of Brits although I expect those who had baked beans and HP sauce specially imported voted Remain anyway.

    All this was warned against before the Referendum but Brexiteers chose to listen to the liars in the Leave camp, who in turn told the masses exactly what they wanted to hear, including blatant lies about the entire population of Turkey coming here. Latent or active racism was a big part of the Brexit pitch and let's never forget it.

    The problem runs far deeper as we've also lost the right to freely export goods to the EU and that will impact us all over decades as international investment moves out of the UK, previously a preferred location to manufacture or headquarter due to a business friendly environment with open access to the EU. No doubt Brexiteers will try to blame that on Europe in years to come but it was always a certain if slow moving result of leaving.

    We've left the EU and so have lost the right to travel freely in Europe. We knew this you were told this before you voted. Yes, the French are awkward, they always have been and clearly always will be.

    One of my employers placed a British Commercial Director in one of our businesses headquartered in Holland. Being a bright ambitious person, he started to study Dutch in the evenings, which I'm sure none of us ever spoke a word of in school. The first time he tried to use his new skill, the Dutch were clearly horrified. After the meeting, he asked someone he trusted whether his Dutch had really been so bad as to cause that reaction. He'd wanted to show the locals they were valued enough to learn their language. His friend said that wasn't it all. They were upset because they were so proud of speaking reasonable English and insulted that he'd seen a need to attempt Dutch. The Germans are a bit the same. The French though won't speak English even if they are fluent and their house is on fire and that's the difference. Unfortunately it's the French closest to us across the Channel and it's there our main trade and travel routes run. Neither their attitude nor geography are changed by Brexit and only fools thought they would be. Any Brexiteer that voted Leave in the expectation the French would be all sweetness and light were naïve at best.
     
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    Interesting noDistant.....I don't know any out voter who thought the French would be sweetness and light...either in the EU or out of the EU......they have an inferiority complex regarding the English.

    Goes back to medieval days when their crossbows were out ' gunned' by our longbows.

    The rest I understand but I am willing to wait for future benefits once we have untied ourselves from all the EU redtape... and that they realize that their EU 'club' is not the perfect answer to Europe's needs.....Putin has already got friends in the EU....Hungary is one example....plus the EU's dependancy on Russian gas and oil.....now that Merkel has gone Germany are weaker and the French President believes he is the big cheese now.....it's all down hill for them now.

    PS.....Blue Badge Holders have been told that they might have problems using them in European holday spots....because of Brexit.....how pathetic is that.
     
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    The point is Plym it was made clear what would happen at the borders and people were fool enough to vote for it. There's no point blaming the French for being French now. You knew it, you voted for it, you got what you voted for.

    There are no future benefits. We've cut ourselves off from a very large free trade bloc on our doorsteps. No amount of thrashing around trying to do trade deals on the other side of the world is going to replace that, especially now we've managed to alienate ourselves from the USA.
     
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    I think that Tory party members should have three boxes to vote in.

    1.....Liz Truss.
    2.....Rikki Sunak.
    3.....None of these.

    Most noticeable thing about Mondays TV debate....was how Sunak shouted down Truss everytime she tried to give her opinion.

    Just showed how he would do better at PM Question's time every Wednesday.

    Maybe the third voting box should be left empty...to allow the Tory members to put an alternative name in.....a lot of them would add Boris Johnson....he's better than these two by far.
     
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    Apart from being an inveterate liar (see also Brexit Leave campaign), a womaniser and a borderline fraudster.
     
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    All I will add to the above is that I see your foolishness has not deminished Plymborn. And, I have doubts Boris is even using his real name he lies so much. I hve just crossed an EU border this very day and it is NOT as easy as it was when IN. The queues were large.
     
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    Just been reading about water shortage and hosepipe bans etc. "Is there a hosepipe ban in my area" was one option to seek info. It just reminds me how typically selfish people really are. Why should you even need a ban on water use for stuff like that. Watering grass, letting the kids have a pool full daily to play in and so on. It isn't really that difficult to understand that if people just use water willy nilly and don't restrain themselves then there is every possibility that we will run out at some point as it isn't looking like rain any time soon. You shouldn't need to tell people they can't use it they should automatically not use it for wasteful purposes. I have a garden and would not dream of putting on a hosepipe currently with or without instruction. No doubt though there will be those who sneak out at midnight and do it like the last time.
     
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    "Millions of gallons of water from a leak flood a part of London" You couldn't make it up in a drought situation could you........

    I still blame Boris who hasn't gone yet. If he was a viking he would have to be called Boris the Lucky wouldn't he. Did Vikings do irony?
     
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    Over breakfast yesterday, I read an interesting piece comparing Brentford and Manchester United over a period of 10 years or so. Ten years ago, Brentford were in League 1, and had been for 3 seasons after 2 years in League 2. Since then, they've climbed to 13th in the EPL last year. During that time, they'd also managed to build themselves a brand new stadium.

    In 2012-13, Manchester United were coming out of a 5 year period in which they were EPL Champions 3 times, runners-up twice and had won the Champions' League. Last season they finished in what is for them a disastrous 6th in the EPL.

    What's more astonishing is in that time, Brentford made a PROFIT of a couple of hundred thousand from buying and selling players, including several of their stars who departed for the EPL. Manchester United meanwhile had a net outlay, purchases minus sales, of nearly £1 billion.

    The scathing conclusion was that, and I'm paraphrasing, Brentford had become a place where talent flourished but Manchester United a place where it faded.

    In the afternoon, I watched Brentford welcome Manchester United to their tightly packed and raucous stadium. They breezed to 4-0 by half time and then cruised the second half without conceding in blistering temperatures. At the end of the day, Brentford lay third in the EPL, Man U bottom, played 2, points 0, GD -5. They welcome Liverpool to Old Trafford on Monday. Good luck with that.
     
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    Having just secured 3 points and played well at Home Park I watched some of the above game at the Club. The whole place was in raptures and laughing aloud as the goaols went in. Not one single Man U supporter in sight and if there was one there they kept very quiet. It was a joy to watch.
     
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