Yeah, it was obviously a dead ball and that's how the umpires deemed it, otherwise they would've called it differently.
OK, I hadn't seen that. I recorded the replay on Sky so I can take another look at that later. I do hope that is the case.
Hmm, just seen it on the BBC website. Unfortunately, McDermott only looks to the (square-leg) umpire after he's broken the stumps at his end so it was still a little careless from him and leaves it open to debate. However, that was an umpiring decision, of course, not our fault and: WE WON!!!
My view is that Lancs trying to argue the dead ball point is just sour grapes and a non-starter - but the lack of a no ball being called for us changing the field on the free hit is a legitimate argument. You can't change the field. However, not getting that no ball is somewhat their own fault. My understanding is that it's for the batters themselves to first raise it with the umpires (who will then make a decision based on what they saw/the TV replays etc), rather than for the umpires to initiate it themselves. If the Lancs batters were fine with us changing the field, or simply didn't notice the change, I don't think they can start complaining about it after the event. A bit like how Somerset were fine, at the time, with Dan Christian running out of his crease in 2010. And they can hardly complain, given that when we too were denied a no ball (and we were alert enough to raise it with the umpires!).
Vince (1st) and McDermott (9th) finished at the top end of the leading run scorers. (Our next highest was Weatherley, way down at 28th.) Fuller (3rd), Wheal (5th), Wood (9th), Dawson (12th) finished at the top end of the leading wicket takers. Ellis (3rd) and Dawson (6th) finished at the top end of the best economies (minimum 16 overs). What makes Ellis' economy stand out in particular is that of the top 18 economies, 14 of them belong to spinners and two others are Bopara and Howell (who are basically spinners without the turn). Only Ellis and Raine are capable of bowling anything that even slightly resembles quick.
What is going on at the BBC. When they put out ****e like this ! WICKET Hardik c Stokes b Pandya 71 (Eng 205-5)
At least the MCC statement clears up the dead ball call. Perhaps McDermott saw the standing end umpire signalling the bye (which automatically means that the ball is dead) before he chose to break the stumps. However, we still shouldn't have been changing the field, but if St_Brendy is right in that it's the batting team's responsibility to raise it before the ball is bowled, then it's simply tough luck on Lancs (and 1-1 in the missed no-ball stakes). It might be difficult to find the actual regulation pertaining to that, but I could have a go! If a query is supposed to be raised by the batting team then perhaps it's simply a case of the umpires ordering the field to go back to how it was before the ball is bowled, rather than an actual penalty like another no-ball being imposed.
I know he's been mentioned before, but a final shout out to James Fuller. What a season he's having and bowled another 2 massive overs late on in the final. He's become so much more consistent. As a keen, but pretty ordinary, cricketer myself I know what it's like to always feel as if you're having to justify your place in the team to others, keep making that contribution, show your worth etc. and he's done that in spades this season. Perhaps you can't really compare the insecurities of a Sunday friendly medium pacer and athletic fielder with a seasoned professional, but I've always had a bit of a soft spot for the slightly underrated people to shine through - on a consistent basis.
Day 1 of Gloucs v Hants will end at 16:30 due to the heat, with play still starting at 11am. Play will be made up on days 2-4.
It doesn’t surprise me after he pulled out of the 100 . He speaks very very well imho . England's World Cup winner Ben Stokes will retire from one-day international cricket after Tuesday's series opener against South Africa in Durham. The 31-year-old, who made his debut against Ireland in 2011, has scored 2,919 runs, including three centuries, and taken 74 wickets in 104 ODIs. Stokes, who became Test captain in April, will still play Twenty20 cricket as well as leading the red-ball side. "Three formats are just unsustainable for me now," said the all-rounder. "This has been an incredibly tough decision to make. I have loved every minute of playing with my mates for England. We have had an incredible journey on the way." At one-day level, Stokes will best be remembered for his player-of-the-match performance in England's 2019 World Cup final win over New Zealand at Lord's, with the left-hander making 84 not out to force a super over, which Eoin Morgan's side won on boundary countback. He announced last week that he would miss this season's Hundred competition to manage his workload, and was left out of England's T20 squad for the upcoming games against South Africa. Stokes added: "As hard as a decision as this was to come to, it's not as hard dealing with the fact I can't give my team-mates 100% of myself in this format any more. The England shirt deserves nothing less from anyone who wears it. "Not only do I feel that my body is letting me down because of the schedule and what is expected of us, but I also feel that I am taking the place of another player who can give Jos [Buttler, England's one-day captain] and the rest of the team their all. It's time for someone else to progress as a cricketer and make incredible memories like I have over the past 11 years. "I have loved all 104 games I have played so far, I've got one more, and it feels amazing to be playing my last game at my home ground in Durham. "As always, the England fans have always been there for me and will continue to be there. You're the best fans in the world." Report Clare Connor, the England and Wales Cricket Board's interim chief executive, called Stokes a "superstar in every format" but said the body's management "understand and respect his decision" and "look forward to watching him excite and enthral in an England shirt for many years to come". Rob Key, managing director of England men's cricket, said: "Ben Stokes has had an incredible international career in ODI cricket, culminating in his match-winning performance at the 2019 ICC Men's Cricket World Cup final. "I know this must have been a tough decision, but I completely understand why he has reached this conclusion. "I'm sure that when we look back on Ben's career and see this as one of the reasons he will play 120-plus Tests and help England in T20 matches and World Cups for many years to come. "It is a typically selfless decision that will benefit England long-term." Stokes' decision comes on the back of England's 2-1 series defeat against India, in which he scored 48 runs in three innings, but only bowled three overs. England's defence of their 50-over title is set to take place in India in October 2023, and following the retirement of Morgan in July, they are now left with two gaps to fill in a middle order that has struggled for runs this summer. The next T20 World Cup is in October this year, but Stokes has not played in the format for England since March 2021 after taking a break from cricket for his mental wellbeing last summer. Stokes' ODI retirement means he is likely to have a break from cricket before England's three-Test series against South Africa starts on 17 August. 'It makes sense' - analysis BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew It is out of the blue. It is one of those moments you go "really, what?" but after 10 seconds you sort of realise that it makes sense. Is it harsh to say that the 50-over format is struggling? It is probably true in terms of player appeal. If it were not for the eight-hour guaranteed broadcast rights, the format would be dead on its feet. A lot of the players do not enjoy playing it and it is a big commitment. He's got a young family and the Test captaincy and would like to play some franchise T20 cricket, it makes sense. We'll never forget his contribution to 2019 - he is a brilliant one-day cricketer. View Comments341
After, rather than before. (I mean, you could do it before. But you'd just be denying yourself that no ball, because the bowling side would rectify things before bowling the ball.) "In the event of the striker’s end Umpire failing to call and signal No Ball when the fielding restrictions in this playing condition have been breached...immediately the ball becomes dead the striker may draw the matter to that Umpire’s attention. If the striker’s end Umpire is able to verify the breach he shall call and signal No Ball. If the striker’s end Umpire is unable to verify the breach then he shall confirm that the events of the delivery shall be unchanged." Ironic that it involves the ball needing to be dead first!
The stream I am watching has no score data and an over biased commentary, plus the camera angles are off line!
