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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    What's the French for "Come over here and try"?
     
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    A licence model for functionality is more usual in CIT systems.
    The functionality is present (physical components) , or
    installable (sw download etc) , but you can only operate it by
    purchasing the licence (key) .

    One thing it does is expose profiteering.
    If I charge 15/month for 24 months, then tis free, then the
    value to me is 15 x 24 = 360 quid.

    In a licence model, you pay me 360 quid to have the function
    at any time, but at least you know the true cost. If a competitor
    offers the function cheaper, then I may buy their product instead.

    If the value is 3600 quid, then some potential customers
    are going to balk from the outset. A vendor could set purchase
    terms over a time period, but the true cost is still transparent.
     
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    Jeremy Vine is on about £600k pa and is worth about £5m, apparently.
    Not sure if that includes his after dinner speaking for arms traders, though.
     
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    I wonder what the legality is of buying a BMW and then having the software cracked?
    It seems that you already own the components in question, so why can't you use them?
     
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    Hey, I've read this one before!
     
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    If you have not paid for a product function, and you
    circumvent the licensing enforcement in order to use said
    functions, then that is effectively theft.

    For the seat/wheel example, the vendor could no doubt
    build seats/wheels without the heater in them, but then if a
    customer wants the heater function, you have all the time +
    cost aggro of going somewhere to physically install that variant.

    So one licence model premise is that some functions are not
    component modular in nature + easy to install, so the vendor
    is shipping out functionality you have not paid to use, but with
    the hope that you will later seek to use them (and pay accordingly) .
     
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    So you don't own the product.
    What if you sell it to someone else? They don't have a contract with the manufacturer.
     
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    At least that fruitcake's out. Goldman Sachs and Homeopathy are leading, though.
     
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    You own the product, but only the right to use the
    functionality you paid to use. If you sell it to someone
    else, vendor CRM usually provides for transfer of
    ownership (equipment serial numbers, licence keys etc) .
     
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    That's not ownership.
     
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    If Tugendhat exits, you have a potential "sisters" vs Rishi scenario.
     
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    Would that make him Macbeth?
     
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    The closest analogy is car ownership.
    I can physically own a car, but if I do not pay the vehicle tax,
    I cannot operate it.
     
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    Yes, you can. Some vehicles are exempt and some uses/users don't require it.
    If you don't use it on public roads, then you don't need it.
     
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    Hence "closest analogy" .
     
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    You still own your car, though.
    The government requiring a license or tax isn't the same as the company half-selling it to you.
    They're taking the piss.
     
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    With what BMW are attempting, I agree.
     
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    Thank f**k Braverman is out she was some nutty lying beeach, still plenty more to come
     
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    Remember, they did not coordinate their resignations. Did not. Nope. Definitely not.
     
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