S.A.F.C. - the future

Tickets need go on sale first…

20 days to go and tickets are nowhere to be seen

 

True… Surely they’ll be on sale in the next couple of days.

 

are tickets on sale for other club's first fixtures?

 

Quite a few

 

How do you know that mate?

 

I have one question.

What is the point of RAWA when they don't represent S.A.F.C. supporters . . . . they represent a tiny minority and arrogantly pretend to represent popular opinion (from the 'high and mighty' arrogance that we've seen from them on here) ?

 

I have no dog in this fight, but this is just how democracy works. Anybody can stand and anybody can be elected.

 

one thing i have never liked about all such groups, although they are asking which questions 'we' would like them to ask, they will always choose the questions they really want to ask themselves...not calling them for it as we would all do the same and no matter which questions get asked (i am obviously presuming there will be some time/question limit) there will be plenty asking why they did not ask about something else.

you just know at this time of year most of the time will be taken up talking recruitment and we know the club will not give too much away...it just reminds me of our union rep at the brickworks, go over the offices, have a couple of cups of tea and some biscuits, come back and say 'nothing doing on the pay rise'

 

For what it’s worth Gordon, in my opinion RAWA does an excellent job of representing Sunderland fans. They have co-opted reps from other supporters groups such as ALS, RR, Disabled supporters, Diversity groups, Senior Supporters, ex players, Women supporters etc.

They are as democratic as you can get, they have standard membership and trust membership (at a premium). So if anyone feels they have no say, it’s probably because they haven’t bothered to acquire any say, as it is open for anyone to join and everyone, member or not, to input material for the meetings. They also have a stated agenda and publish minutes of the meetings.

They canvass fans for questions through social media and although this is the first time I have seen it on Not606, they have a reps(s) on RTG.

It is the individual groups who claim to be representative that I dislike, they intimate that they speak for us fans but they don't, they are ran as a commercial enterprise and don't canvass opinion before they make a comment.

 

That's fair enough . . . . as I said, I'm just going by the arrogance of a RAWA rep who came on here last year or the year before, I think, telling us what to think and that he represented us, without any input from us, and how important he was

Perhaps/hopefully they're not all like him

 

Was that not the bloke from Wise Men Say who as you say is an arrogant twat and came on here to have a go at one of the regular Not606 posters then left as quickly as he came?
They are the ones who I despise and they definitely don't speak for me, but I do think if we want a representative body then RAWA is as good a model as we can hope for.

 

I think you are getting mixed up with the fanzines mate. Obviously RAWA only speak for their members but DR is a class act

 

I'm as sure as I can be that it was RAWA, but my memory's not my strong point



This forum . . . . I might be wrong (I'm not, like ) , but I'm not getting 'shot'

 

BANG

 

There’s plenty of websites/apps out there like Slido where you can raise questions and vote on which questions you’d like asked. Would provide more clarity that the questions being asked are ones the supporters want asked.

 

fair enough but let's presume i am the 'group' rep invited to the meeting and we are told 10 questions each group...human nature would have me asking the questions i want answers to, the thing is the questions 'most want to ask' will most likely end up the same or similar but no one is going to not ask their own questions.

 

I think he means the fans could vote on the questions that would be asked

I think he is getting at the initial 10 questions you mention, and being able to influence those early doors

 

i know what he meant, it just does not change what i said...there are many routes to putting questions into a hat, so to speak.

i would like to think the likes of rawa could say 'right we have 200 questions so we will just start at 1 and work through' but they will be speaking to busy people and i am fairly sure there will be at the very least a time limit and maybe so much time per group if more than one.