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[Saf]

I know you're not a fan

I'm still right though

Marnin' btw

Mornin pal

The hard left will never win an election in this country. Jeremy Corbyn is still a far bigger **** than Boris Johnson will ever be.

 

[Peej]

It's time for the rescue man

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Just about to post that. I think they should give it Giggsy

 

[Saf]

So we continue the same old ffs......Great that init

You said all political parties and politicians are the same as they're all having their strings pulled so it doesn't matter who we vote for.

I can see you have changed your mind yet again!!

 

[PINKIE]

Mornin pal

The hard left will never win an election in this country. Jeremy Corbyn is still a far bigger **** than Boris Johnson will ever be.

Astounding really. But it's all about opinions I suppose.

Just think we need somebody who actually gives a **** about the working people of this country mate.

 

[brb]

The electorate's ability to still vote for the Tories does astound me, yes

How do you think opposition parties would be towards helping Ukraine, I only ask because I feel we've stuck our noses too far out in regards to this, often Boris using it as a diversion to domestic politics especially with billions of aid and weapons, and they ain't even on the UK's doorstep as such.

 

[PINKIE]

How do you think opposition parties would be towards helping Ukraine, I only ask because I feel we've stuck our noses too far out in regards to this, often Boris using it as a diversion to domestic politics especially with billions of aid and weapons, and they ain't even on the UK's doorstep as such.

I think it would probably continue in a similar vein. The input into Ukraine is a multi national approach and from the UK perspective has probably been led by senior civil servants in the Foreign office and in the MOD.

 

[Welshie]

@brb is right.

If they bring in an PM who is stronger than May and isnt goofy like Johnson. The Torys can easily beat the ****in Labour Party.

Theres cats in the Labour Party still chatting about coal ffs.

 

[Bodinki]

@brb is right.

If they bring in an PM who is stronger than May and isnt goofy like Johnson. The Torys can easily beat the ****in Labour Party.

Theres cats in the Labour Party still chatting about coal ffs.

The fact of the matter is, that due to Corbyn, people dont trust Labour, and its going to take some time for them to distance themselves from Corbyn's legacy. It left a bad taste in many peoples mouths.
I think most of the chief offenders are gone from the front benches now, namely Corbyn himself and Abbott the Hutt, and Keir has handled himself pretty well so far, though the ****ed up antics of Bojo has been handing Starmer easy wins thus far.
I would like to see how Starmer fares as leader of the opposition against a more competent Prime Minister.

 

[aberdude]

You said all political parties and politicians are the same as they're all having their strings pulled so it doesn't matter who we vote for.

I can see you have changed your mind yet again!!

Your so wrong again but hey your a tory so why would you understand anyone else.....We need change from the direction we are going.......the only one to offer that change was corbyn.....the rest are in the pockets of others simples really......so anarchy or forget it for me our last chance got the assassination by press card

 

[Chief]

Should have elected Corbyn

We would have seen some meaningful change for ordinary working folk.

The reason people didn't and still don't vote for labour is almost entirely down to Corbyn. This was never going to happen. Just dreamy pie in the sky.

What labour need to do is get a convincing person in charge of the party intstead of just shouting at the Tories they would have done things differently.

Tide is turning a bit now, Corbyn is becoming slightly more convincing as a candidate, but he's still just a face.. Corbyn never in a millions years was.

 

[Welshie]

The fact of the matter is, that due to Corbyn, people dont trust Labour, and its going to take some time for them to distance themselves from Corbyn's legacy. It left a bad taste in many peoples mouths.
I think most of the chief offenders are gone from the front benches now, namely Corbyn himself and Abbott the Hutt, and Keir has handled himself pretty well so far, though the ****ed up antics of Bojo has been handing Starmer easy wins thus far.
I would like to see how Starmer fares as leader of the opposition against a more competent Prime Minister.

I think the trust was lost with Blair and a blind mans scrotum could see that Corbyn was not going to capture the imaginations of people.

Starmer is far too safe imo. Cos he's following a opposition leader who was a **** up. Makes him play the boring card too often to seem serious.

Keir is a bit of a poser too. Refusing to be called Sir Keir because he wants to appeal to the 15 people in a pub wearing flat caps in a North welsh village, when most Brits like the average Sir. Poser.

 

[aberdude]

The reason people didn't and still don't vote for labour is almost entirely down to Corbyn. This was never going to happen. Just dreamy pie in the sky.

What labour need to do is get a convincing person in charge of the party intstead of just shouting at the Tories they would have done things differently.

Tide is turning a bit now, Corbyn is becoming slightly more convincing as a candidate, but he's still just a face.. Corbyn never in a millions years was.

Just shows me what a right wing leaning population we got in this country.

In its true meaning g Labour is Jeremy corbyn everything else is soft tory I'm afraid.....zionist fking scum infact

 

[Welshie]

Did Johnson just resign? Gotta love BBCs live feed.

Btw, the EU is right. Lizzy Truss is going to be the Next PM and shes even worse for them.

 

[Welshie]

Just shows me what a right wing leaning population we got in this country.

In its true meaning g Labour is Jeremy corbyn everything else is soft tory I'm afraid.....zionist fking scum infact

Even in Wales the right vote is the fastest growing every single election.

The two different nations notion is a ****ing joke in Wales.

 

[Bodinki]

I think the trust was lost with Blair and a blind mans scrotum could see that Corbyn was not going to capture the imaginations of people.

Not sure that is 100% true.
Whilst certainly Blair pissed off a lot of people with his warmongering antics, being Dubyah's pal and all, I think Labour had ample opportunity to pull it back.
You forget in 2016 Labour ran the Tories pretty close.
It wasnt until Corbyns batshit 2019 manifesto and his non stance on Brexit that people turned on Labour

 

[Quesadaad]

Rory Stewart?
I thought he looked decent.

 

[Welshie]

Not sure that is 100% true.
Whilst certainly Blair pissed off a lot of people with his warmongering antics, being Dubyah's pal and all, I think Labour had ample opportunity to pull it back.
You forget in 2016 Labour ran the Tories pretty close.
It wasnt until Corbyns batshit 2019 manifesto and his non stance on Brexit that people turned on Labour

I think people mistrusted Labour plenty, but still hated Tories but agree, 100% that they could have pulled it back.

Peej is right. Current Manchester Mayor should have been given the job and probably would have ran a pretty close race.

 

[Welshie]

Rory Stewart?
I thought he looked decent.

Hes a nice Tory for sure but hes hated by his party peers.

Everyone has to remember all the new Tory MPs are Boris boys. A loyalist with the support of Mogg stands the best chance.

 

[PINKIE]

The reason people didn't and still don't vote for labour is almost entirely down to Corbyn. This was never going to happen. Just dreamy pie in the sky.

What labour need to do is get a convincing person in charge of the party intstead of just shouting at the Tories they would have done things differently.

Tide is turning a bit now, Corbyn is becoming slightly more convincing as a candidate, but he's still just a face.. Corbyn never in a millions years was.

The media did a hatchet job on Corbyn and folk fell for it. In a world that had Boris, Putin, Trump, Bolsanaro, Kim Jong-un, they somehow managed to paint Corbyn as the most dangerous man in politics. Laughable really, but some folk don’t bother to look beyond the memes.

There was an interesting poll done around the time Corbyn was running. People voted for policies that they would like to see implemented, they weren’t assigned to any political party, just the bare policies.

They turned out to be the majority of policies that Corbyn and McDonnell had drawn up. But when they were assigned to them, folk immediately said they wouldn’t vote for them. So reluctantly I have to agree with you that Corbyn was unelectable, the media and Westminster PR machine made sure of that.

Like Peej, I’d like to see your man in Manchester put forward for the Labour Party leadership.

 

[Welshie]

The media did a hatchet job on Corbyn and folk fell for it. In a world that had Boris, Putin, Trump, Bolsanaro, Kim Jong-un, they somehow managed to paint Corbyn as the most dangerous man in politics. Laughable really, but some folk don’t bother to look beyond the memes.

There was an interesting poll done around the time Corbyn was running. People voted for policies that they would like to see implemented, they weren’t assigned to any political party, just the bare policies.

They turned out to be the majority of policies that Corbyn and McDonnell had drawn up. But when they were assigned to them, folk immediately said they wouldn’t vote for them. So reluctantly I have to agree with you that Corbyn was unelectable, the media and Westminster PR machine made sure of that.

Like Peej, I’d like to see your man in Manchester put forward for the Labour Party leadership.

I was a registered Labour member and spoke to everyone else I knew about electing Burnham.

Corbyns little army were a ****ing horrid bunch. Toxic is an understatement and the Corbynistas basically ruined any chance of him ever being popular.

Labour lost a lot of decent people because of Corbyn and his followers were often the absolute dregs.