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Bastards

 

Starmer wants a nice cosy relationship with the EU.

He better get Vaseline for what they're gonna do to him.

 

Fortunately they need us more than we need them.

 

Wills can speak from his perspective, but I'm perfectly happy to judge Johnson's character based on his track record - personal and professional. He hasn't made one 'mistake', he's a serial cheat and liar, and left his wife while she was undergoing cancer treatment. Because when the going gets tough, Johnson looks for an easy route out, and damn the consequences and the people involved. See also: his whole career and all his personal relationships.

 

I fear you may have mistaken me for someone that’s defending him, Ravers.

The only point I was making (to Wills, who’s a decent bloke as it ‘appens) is why make a criticism of Johnson’s record with his children when the whole liberalisation of society is pretty much making this more common? I ****ing abhor any man that neglects his own offspring or leaves his wife and kids for a bit on the side (are you listening Hancock, you feckless twat?) but this is an unhappy bi-product of the anything goes, **** morals society that so many have striven for.

 

It’s just an example I could have used one of many. The rights and wrongs of his kid situation isn’t the point, my point being is if pretty much any other politician were to be in his situation kid wise the media would have done a hatchet job and there’s no way they’d have made it close to the top office… weird that Johnson gets a pass, especially as the Torys are supposedly seen to stand for traditional British values, including traditional family values.

 

Yeah, but therein lies the greatest mystery. Johnson and his Muddyfunksters are not conservatives by any stretch of the imagination. They’re liberal elitist authoritarian ****s, that’s what they is.

 

I wouldn’t say they are liberals I’d say they are shameless ****s who think they can get away with pretty much anything and have been doing it their entire life’s. They’ll pander and say anything that they think will help.

Brexit is a great example, Johnson was pro EU until he saw a chance by becoming a leading public figure on the leave side, it’s worked he’s climbed the ladder off the back of it and it’s enabled him to help both himself and his associates to make a fat stack of cash, I honestly think he’d be pro goat ****ing if his advisers thought it would help firm up his voter base.

 

Yeah, you’re right. I stand corrected. He and his cronies are a privileged bunch of twats with a heightened sense of entitlement. There’s no particular ideology there.

I have no beef with privilege and inherited wealth or titles per se, it’s the manner of the individual that’s important.

 

Yep agree 100% you don’t need to have walked in the shoes to have empathy and want better for people who have less than you. You don’t have to give up everything to do good things for the sake of doing the right thing. Also some use the platform they have to speak up for others who otherwise are unlikely to get that platform.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61759643

 

For ****'s sake!

 

Sorry, couldn't resist a chance to moan about him

 

How Speakers’ Corner became a warzone
Christian preacher and ex-Muslim Hatun Tash talks to spiked about being stabbed at London’s ‘heart of free speech’.

PADDY HANNAM
11th August 2021

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‘It seems to me… that the intention was to kill me or harm me badly.’ So says Hatun Tash, an ex-Muslim and Christian preacher who was stabbed at Speakers’ Corner in Hyde Park last month. An attack which, thankfully, she escaped from with relatively minor injuries.

We’re speaking in the week after the incident. She tells me what happened. She was ‘having a gentle conversation with a man who [had] converted to Islam’ when she was lunged at by a hooded attacker who slashed at her face and arm, leaving her covered in blood.

We still don’t know what provoked the attack. The assailant remains at large and police continue to investigate. ‘I wouldn’t say I’ve got enemies’, Tash tells me: she thinks she is an ‘okay person’. The attacker ‘didn’t tell me what I did wrong’, she says.

Tash, a regular at Speakers’ Corner, has been attacked there before. Last year she was punched in the face by a man because she was displaying Muhammad cartoons. That she is an ex-Muslim – an apostate – as well as a critic of Islam makes her even more of a target.

In recent times, Speakers’ Corner – known throughout the world as a place of free speech and debate – has become something of a battleground between Muslims, critics of Islam and rabble-rousers on both sides. ‘I’ve been at Speakers’ Corner since 2013’, Tash says. She preaches the gospel there. In the past few years, she explains, there have been ‘lots of tensions’.

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She says she has been assaulted many times in the past. She has also got into trouble with the police. Two weeks before the attack, with the support of campaign group the Christian Legal Centre, she brought legal action against the Metropolitan Police alleging false arrest and imprisonment.

She says she was shaken by the knife attack last month, not just because of her safety but also because of the reaction — or lack thereof. She is ‘disappointed that in the 21st century, anyone can be attacked in the heart of freedom of speech and the media [don’t] give it that much attention’. She has a point. There were news reports about the attack, of course, but no widespread outrage.

‘I wouldn’t say I [have been] abandoned’ by the press, she says, ‘but I would say when it comes to certain groups, the media are very quick to keep silent’. The media, she says, are ‘choosing not to talk about it because there is a problem with Islam’. There is a belief, she goes on, that ‘if we don’t talk about it, everyone will be happy and people will forget’.

Tash isn’t just speaking about her own story here. She mentions the silence over grooming gangs and the Batley Grammar School scandal. She says that, where Islam is concerned, the media are ‘turning a blind eye because they don’t want to be [accused of] Islamophobia’.

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This idea – that Islam must not be criticised – lies behind numerous acts of violence and murder in Europe in recent years. We move on to talk about the Charlie Hebdo massacre, in which French cartoonists were murdered by Islamists for daring to depict Muhammad.

Tash was wearing a Charlie Hebdo t-shirt when she was attacked. When Charlie’s offices were attacked in 2015, she took the magazine’s cartoons to Speakers’ Corner. She did the same when a French teacher was beheaded on the outskirts of Paris last year for showing Charlie Hebdo cartoons to his students.

‘When Samuel Paty was killed, I took those pictures again’, she says. And she didn’t only take cartoons of Muhammad, but Charlie’s cartoons of Jesus and the Christian God, too. ‘I find them very offensive’, she says, but ‘that doesn’t give me the right… to go and chop someone’s head off’.

Whatever the motivations of the man who slashed at Hatun Tash, violent attacks on critics of Islam keep on happening. And they keep on being brushed under the carpet. The UK, Tash says, is known for giving ‘dignity and honour to human beings’. We need to make sure that remains the case.

 

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Mogg on newsnight was a complete embarrassment! Still spouting that vaccine roll out lie of leaving the EU, whilst in the same sentence saying any European country could have chosen to do it! He really is a simple **** with a posh voice.

 

Emily Thornberry spoke very well about Labour's new policy...of "Make Brexit Work"

 

Johnson putting together his latest “I want to apologise sincerely to the British public and pledge that I will do better” letter this morning.

 

She did, although I don't think she believed a single word of what she said.

 

No politician actually believes Brexit can work so I wouldn’t hold that against her.