Fascinating stuff. The problem remains of who would replace him. Truss? Raab? Gove? Patel? Sunak? They're going to have to go for someone who's not on thefront bench here. This is like replacing a Sunderland manager. 'Literally anyone would be better', and then literally anyone turns out to be worse 95% of the time.
He will win, but over 100 votes against him will weaken him. He will not resign, so he will be safe for another year. If that happens then the opposition should call a vote of no confidence in the government, to see how many of the Tory MP’s are willing to have no confidence in Boris but still back him.
I hate him me and that’s despite voting blue at the last election. Won’t be making that mistake again.
It shows how far standards have dropped that he hasn't resigned already to be honest. We're so caught up in this culture war, with people entrenched on opposite sides, that people defend the indefensible. The worst case scenario for the Conservatives is for Johnson to win whilst having 100+ votes against him. He doesn't have the integrity to walk away and a year with a politically wounded Prime Minister might weaken this government enough that it leads to a Labour election win. If Johnson does go soon, I can only hope that this current group of populist sycophants in the cabinet are not in line to succeed. Though I'm not a Conservative voter as such, someone like Tom Tugendhat would command a lot more respect from all sides.
One of my peeves about the current crop of politicians is that they have done naff all. The likes of Heath Callaghan and Healey had all served in WW2. Or they worked in industry, and become TU officials on the Labour side. The tories had been lawyers or self made businessmen. Today they are all Oxbridge PPE and spads...before becoming MPs. At least Tuhendhat served in Afghanistan...
Which basically makes them all a waste of space at the moment, never seen such a miserable bunch of useless twats in 50 years.
The worst outcome would be having Gove or Zahawi replacing him, this would come as no surprise, with this bunch of tossers anything is possible.
They claim they got big decisions right but in fact I think they take credit for some big decisions going right and ignore the many they got wrong. We locked down too late, we slipped through many events that made it worse, eat out to help out, we threw money into the toilet with fraudulent furlough claims written off though furlough was a good thing (there had to be something), threw it down the toilet with commissioning of often substandard PPE generally to the donors friends and neighbours of Tories, they negotiated a dire purely ideological Brexit deal which has made us all spiral into debt and poverty, they’ve dithered on the cost of living until the polls/by elections/opposition kicked them into action. They’ve come up with an illegal unethical set of policies on migration, the education industry despise them, and most think that new weights and measures are a ridiculous unworkable gimmick that will cost business even more. They have also made it illegal to protest against their utter ****e against a widely held British tradition. One of only a few I’m proud of. But apart from that they’ve got all the big decisions right. They are unbelievably ****e and also bastards. I don’t support the Tories per se but there are better versions than this farcical one.
That’s why I’m a big fan of a different PR based electoral system so there is consensus and negotiation not a revolution every change in leadership. They need to do the right thing for the country not play this stupid ‘winner takes all’ childlike board game they’ve created.
Just for the purpose of adding balance here, I would like to point out that tossers in politics are by no means confined to one party. For example Boris, and his party walked the last Election, in part at least, because Labour had saddled themselves with another tosser, Mr Corbyn, who proved to be un-electable. Labour suporters should be encouraging the Tory Party to stand firmly behind Boris
I'd say that's "whataboutery" rather than balance. It's a discussion about the government and the current mess. "What about Corbyn" isn't an opinion on the current situation or balance, it's deflecting from the point at hand. Framing it as "Labour supporters" and "Tory supporters" is part of the problem. We've started to look at political parties like our football team and giving them blind loyalty. We need to look at it more like they're all players in our team. We're all on the same side and the question is "Has our captains partying distracted us from performing or is he still the right man to lead?"
About 70 against and overwhelmingly in his favour would be my guess. Anything approaching 3 figures would mean this drags on until the next election in my opinion. It's not in the people's interests.
That’s the thing that beats me about Labour supporters on here, they are virtually being given the next election on a plate and yet want rid of Boris to elect someone else who will take them on to win the next election. Are you secret conservatives by any chance ?
Boris Johnson is not fit to be Prime Minister. Its got nothing to do with being a Conservative. Its the fact he is a completely racist, dodgy, nasty, dishonest, lying, arrogant bastard. He would never have got anywhere near consideration as Prime Minister at any point upto 20 years ago and its a joke that this country sank so low that he was deemed the best choice.
Yes, and I'm not sure how we would be anymore in the wilderness when Europe think he's a clown and Biden thinks he's the lying twat he is.
