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  1. Leo Billy

    Leo Billy Well-Known Member

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    Where do you lot find us being towards the back end of season 24-25? Mid table? Europa? Top 4?

    Personally I think we’ll be battling teams like Villa & West Ham for 6/7th.
     
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    Three years down the line we will be edging into the top five. Maybe not winning the PL but definitely in the arguement for CL places.
     
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  3. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    We'll be:

    - Sick of hearing me post about Wood being useless
    - Getting frustrated because we're "only" able to draw at the likes of Liverpool and Man City
    - Arguing about the Summer's transfer budget
    - Concerned that the board hasn't turned us into CL challengers
    - Frustrated because Howe isn't using the tactics we think are better
     
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  4. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    3 seasons? Difficult to say, as it may not turn out the way we think.

    I'd say maybe challenging Arsenal, Manure for 5th. PL title is 10 years away definitely. 3/4th I think Chelsea and Spurs are going be stronger next season, and will probably have 3/4th sorted out.

    If one of them slip up we could maybe get a sniff of 4th.

    I'd say between 5-7th.
     
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  5. ToonArmy1892

    ToonArmy1892 Well-Known Member

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    I think we'll be the 4th best team in the league in 3 seasons.

    Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea will still be ahead of us.

    I see no reason why we can't be better than Spurs, Arsenal and Man U by then.

    We beat Arsenal, drew with Man U but should of won, and only narrowly lost to Spurs even under Bruce.

    We will be outspending them all aswell.
     
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  6. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    Top 1 or 2 will keep changing. Football always does. At some point, through retirement or changing players, one of those at the top has a blip. Man U did it post 90's when they looked invincible. Liverpool post-80's. Arsenal then struggled after being 'invincible'. Chelsea rose from nowhere, but have had a couple of dips and now have to replace a central defence without any issues - I can easily see this being the season they drop away. Spurs seem to be on the rise, but are maybe one more season away from struggling as Kane, Lloris, Son all getting older.

    Liverpool have Mane, Salah and Firminho all around the same age. Diaz looks like he's an able replacement, but it's the sum of the parts. Virgil will be almost impossible to replace, whoever they get will be a step down. Henderson ageing, Milner gone. They won the CL in, what, 2006? But didn't then go on to dominate as many thought they might.

    City have the hardest structure to break down. But eventually they will tighten up the loan market and things will start to even out once again. De Bruyne, like Virgil, is irreplaceable. Guardiola's on his last season or two, I think. Will be interesting to see how things change now they want to play 4-3-3 with a striker, rather than false 9. Haaland looks class, but let's not overlook the fact he's never scored more in a German season than Werner did......but their structure is the biggest in the World, effectively, so they may be the hardest to dislodge.

    I think there's room for us up there. 7th is the goal next season, no doubt. Not Europe, just to be the best outside of the top 6. Then you're selling a different vision to players - "Can you get us there? Are you the one who's going to make the difference, are you good enough? Do you have the desire to take this growing team into the Champions League?". Once we finish 7th (or higher) then it's all guns blazing for 4th.
     
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  7. G4rdToonArmy

    G4rdToonArmy Well-Known Member

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    Can all change in a season but as of today Id say 5-7th depending on what investment we are allowed to make and what sponsorship deals we are allowed to take. If we are railroaded from making substantial increases on commercial revenue we'll be one of the teams battling for UEFA/UEFA Conference places.

    If we can bring in some astronomical revenue deals we could be looking top 4. It took City 3 years to win their first title and while I don't think we will do that its certainly possible if the owners can find loopholes to increase revenue.

    EPL isn't so much about ability as it is ability to spend and spend wisely, the top 6 are the top 6 because they can spend the most on wages

    (from Aug 21)
    No. CLUB - WAGE BILL
    1 Manchester City £220m
    2 Manchester United £205.4m
    3 Liverpool £190m
    4 Chelsea £186.7m
    5 Arsenal £175m
    6 Tottenham £151.5m

    All these clubs top paid players are on over £250k a week

    Next up is Everton who are way out of kilter at £114m (approximately 25% less than Spurs spend I might add) and battling relegation but then you have Leicester (10th), West Ham (7th) and Wolves (8th) so the correlation is there to see.

    If we are allowed to spend to get involved we will be there or thereabouts....
     
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  8. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, anything that shuts up the ****ing pathetic noise from Sky Sports or TalkShite about how amazing it is to see Liverpool/City fighting it out year after ****ing year will be a good thing. I'd be happy to see Spurs win a title just to stop this insufferable bollocks.

    I mean, seriously, does anyone outside of those teams - and we're all aware how limited the City support is - bothered? Or is it irritating to see a 20+ point gap at the top every season? Bad for business to monopolise anything.
     
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    Champions.
     
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  10. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    Urgh.... WHY?

    If you remove the first 6 games of the season, our form puts us in 6th place over 32 games, are you seriously suggesting they'll be no improvement whatsoever in 3 years?

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  11. Leo Billy

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    I do think there’ll be much improved mate, I just think Villa and West Ham will also be much improved too.
     
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    We’ll be reigning champions and we’ll be winning the quadruple
     
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    Preparing to pump Bayern in the CL final
     
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  14. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    Take out the first 12, what's it look like then!?
     
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  15. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    Not much different tbh, 6th.

    We're 3rd for the second half of the season though.
     
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  16. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    But we'll be much improved to the point we're in exactly the same place after 3 years?
     
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  17. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    But we'll be much improved to the point we're in exactly the same place after 3 years?
     
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  18. Leo Billy

    Leo Billy Well-Known Member

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    Aye. I think Villa will be better than us for at least a couple of years.
     
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  19. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    Why? We're better than them now.
     
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  20. Eddie's British Plodders

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    - Waiting for Dan Ashworth's gardening leave to end... <laugh>
     
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