Yes that’s true but there aren’t infinite, or even several, ways of splitting up the North Stand to accommodate fans in different places, which is what I thought was being said. Shrinking or growing the away area to match the size of any away following isn’t as easy as it sounds. The plan published on the club website allocates N5, N6, N7, E1, E2 and E3 to away fans. They broadly accommodate 600, 600, 300, 300, 500 and 600 fans (my estimates are presumably slightly high as that comes to more than 2,500). So for away followings of reasonably small size, which will be common in the Championship next season, either the three N blocks or the three E blocks will suffice for away fans and the others can be made available to home fans - pay on day fans only, of course, which is no use to memberships holders in the E blocks. But giving a small away following just, say, N7 and hoping all other blocks can be given to home fans isn’t possible as that would mean home and away fans would have to share concourse facilities.
Mmm, don’t think you’ve ever been to a last night of the proms. Europeans certainly wouldn’t like it.
I completely agree with this. The major overhaul that would be required to generate such an atmosphere would be met with a lot of resistance too. A tiny starting point would be having a drum in the ground. And I'm pretty certain that would annoy a fair few on here
I think the general consensus will be that something has to improve because our atmosphere at the moment isn't very good and I'm quite glad the new ownership has picked up on this rather quickly. It's England, so it's already not as good as many other nations, but with us there seems to be a bit of a malaise, even before the Allams came in it never felt thoroughly intense, save for a few occasions such as Leeds or the promotion days. Maybe the level of atmosphere I want isn't realistic in this country. But then I suppose you see Rangers, that night they qualified for the Europa League final it was something else. I don't think it's a bad idea to have away fans somewhere else, I don't really like the idea of them being behind directly behind a goal and I wish there was a way to solve that without moving people. Could give them half the West Stand upper, but then you've got the safety risks involved of idiots dropping things on people below. The drum idea is one thing that could help, maybe up the intensity of the pre match music. There's something about local indie bands that's very homely and nice but not exactly adrenaline pumping and atmosphere generating. And obviously fix the PA system.
It would certainly help, but I think generally our atmosphere feels a bit pedestrian, even when we win. When Danny Dyer did that cringey documentary about hooliganism and the Psychos, he massively overstated how much danger he was in. Which of course he did because he's a bellend. On a more personal level, I do get a bit ****ed off when we're singing "Can't Help Falling in Love" and the away fans join in. It's obviously not our song and ours alone, but for a song with so much meaning to us, it does feel ****ty to hear ****ing Birmingham, Luton and Sunderland fans joining in.
I personally don't think so, it's never been a noisy stadium. The only time I think it's been particularly loud was during the Phil Brown promotion season. There were spells under Bruce it was half decent but it's always been quiet for me. I've been to a fair few boxing events (both indoor and outdoor) and the atmosphere on a big card is insane. But that's probably because everyone is pissed and right before the main event you get Freed From Desire and Sweet Caroline. It sets the tempo.
Acun just needs to fly some Fenerbahce ultras over for every game, 500 should do, and place them in the South Stand
Quiet stadiums are a common theme of the over sanitised state football has developed into. Haven’t gone to a loud stadium once this season. The best atmosphere I’ve been in was Peterborough away this season and that was our doing.
It’s natural though for them, when fans of English clubs do it, it’s forced as ****. Boro had a group of them and it looked ****. Huddersfield do it with a megaphone…
Well you have to learn from elsewhere on the continent then. We can't whinge about the atmosphere and then not change a thing and resist all change too. There's no reason you can't get a decent atmosphere, you'll just piss a few people off initially by doing it.
They're better when used properly by the Europeans. But some spotty kid banging the same old beat over and over like you get at places like Udders and Wigan sounds ****e. That drum at Huddersfield has been the soundtrack to some horrendous games, so perhaps that's also playing on my mind too! I just associate it with us being 2, 3 down and playing ****
I'm sure Acun can bring some drummers over to sort it. After watching Fenerbahce and then watching us he must think he's in a library.
I think the ‘quietness’ is due to the reserved nature of Hull people my wife is from Sheffield and admits how much quieter we talk and act in general and especially in pubs and bars- we do go in town for a night out ! , the style of play if negative / defensive, waiting to concede , Mixing West Stand people in with the locals , I’m in East and it’s never been so quiet , if I get loud people are almost horrified ! There is an Allam hangover as that killed things for some time. I recall Bruce coming with Birmingham not long after we came up and we won 1-0 I think and he said our aggressive crowd was a big factor - but then we were allowed to be rowdy - not allowed to now . .
Yeah the timing is not great given the way the Country is struggling but I think on this occassion Acun cannot win. He knew there needed to be change but he was always going to upset someone. Without knowing their exact circumstances it is difficult but if someone was buying my pass because I was not working and earnng a wage then I think I would be quite respectful if he told me we were moving seats a couple of blocks across.
If only they had a fan on the SAG, who could find find out the reasoning behind these sort of things...
This is the problem, football is now more for a different type of people to some degree, the man on the street who in the past wanted to let off steam once or twice a week, and for the most part long gone.