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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 3rd May)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, May 3, 2022.

  1. Gessa

    Gessa Well-Known Member

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    Not sure about how much of the incoming transfer fees will be spent though, seem to remember someone saying we'd basically mortgaged the club on being a PL club and the income that brings
     
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  2. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I didn’t say nobody would pay £5m for them??? I said who would pay £5m MORE than we paid

    Raphinha signed for £18m yet he has a relegation release clause of £25m at least £7m profit on what we paid

    It stands to reason anyone else who we signed will have a similar increase on what we paid. When we signed these players nobody thought we’d be fighting relegation. If Rodrigo, Firpo, Koch or Llorente have a release clause fee it will be at least what we paid for them and possibly more
     
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  3. Gessa

    Gessa Well-Known Member

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    I think Meslier may give us another season, not sure he'd get to be number 1 yet at many PL or top European clubs. Ayling, Cooper, Klich, James Bamford, Dallas(fingers crossed) are one's I think will be here from the first team squad, not sure about the others.
     
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  4. Jammy 07

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    Add Firpo & Harrison to the ones you've listed and that's a good enough squad with the youngsters to bounce straight back...subject to injuries of course.

    Also everyones forgotten about Shackleton & Roberts who may be at just the right age and experience to be really good championship players.
     
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  5. Gessa

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    I think the club would jump at £25m for Harrison if we go down, that's if the rumours are true,of course, not sure if Firpo will be here regardless, signs are he's not happy and wants to return to Spain, Shackleton certainly good enough if he can stay fit, it's make or break season for Roberts I feel
     
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  6. Jammy 07

    Jammy 07 Well-Known Member

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    If we go down then I'm pretty sure every player will be onto his agent asking ' what are my options ? '.
     
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  7. milkyboy

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    Ah my bad, misread what you posted. However the logic is flawed in my opinion. Footballers values obviously increase up to a certain age as they reach their prime and then decrease. Raphinha was of an age where he was on the way up - James might be quite high for similar reasons. Firpo is a little older, and there’s no way rod’s would be more than we paid for.

    It’s also possible release values are on a sliding scale in relation to length of contract.

    Irrespective of release clauses. The key thing though is the relationship between salaries in the two divisions and whether, depending on how that’s reflected in their contracts, it’s Cost-effective to keep them… plus of course whether you actually want to keep them- and whether they want to stay.
     
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    roberts 4th consecutive make or break season <laugh>
     
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  9. Gessa

    Gessa Well-Known Member

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    There is that.
     
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  10. Eireleeds1

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    Remember also any players bought in last two seasons were likely paid for over four or five seasons. That seems to be the norm. Therefore there is still large amounts still to pay for Firpo, koch, Llorente, racha, Firpo and of course the Augustin fiasco. That would bore a fair hole in any transfers received if its the case
     
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  11. Jammy 07

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    Just worked out on the back of a *** packet where we'll be next season financially should we be relegated.

    1st year clubs get 55% of the equally shared element of PL broadcasting rights (parachute payment) = £47M approx
    Plus we save on player bonuses = £50M approx
    Revenue from 4 extra home games = £4M approx
    EFL TV money = £4M approx

    Total revenue = £105M approx

    This is compared to the £132M we earned last season 2020/21.

    If Raphinha goes for his buy out clause then we're about level income wise (not including sponsors, shirts sales etc).

    That's without the unkown reduction in players salaries after relegation.

    (Year 2 clubs get 40% and Year 3 20% in parachute payments).
     
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  12. wakeybreakyheart

    wakeybreakyheart Well-Known Member

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    Yes and where can i express my loyalty to the club paying me the most money.
     
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  13. Eireleeds1

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    Remember the players got 35m out of that 132 last season in bonuses also
     
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  14. wakeybreakyheart

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    At 25 million i would sell Harrison if we stay up or not.
     
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    Looks like they'll be getting foook all this year.

    Does Orta get any credit for that ?
     
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  16. Eireleeds1

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    Whatever Ortas getting, its more than enough <doh>
     
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  17. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I recall he's played defensive midfield for Germany before. No idea how many times though.
     
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  18. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    When you look at a list of our transfers over the last 3 or 4 years, its easy to remember the players we have made a profit on (as they are few and far between). 90 percent of our players, we have made losses on, or have left for nothing. In the bigger picture of Leeds transfers, even if we got 65m for Raphinha, that's still dirt cheap when you see what a) other players are going for, and b) replacement value, and c) how few players of ours command a fee!!!!!
     
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    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    For 25m, Shaks would tarmac the entire road leading to his new club!!!
     
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    Firpo not happy! Well junior me old mucka count me in as well, yet another to disappoint..... it's a Leeds thing <steam>
     
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