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Euthanasia..Way off Topic

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by JoRvIk-ViNeGaR-jOe, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. Now then..

    The titles not a way of escaping my daily life but how many of you have thought or been down this road in question? How do you tune yourself everyday in the same mode to do the same things at the same times for someone you hopelessly love and adore?

    Iv'e done it for nearly two years now and after feeding Lollie tonight, I walked into the kitchen and shed a tear..

    Don't want to say anymore but 'love, beauty and all the condiments' in life are inside my woman's body but the body doesn't work anymore..

    Hey, love what you have around you as I do and always be expect the unexpected.

    Won't be there tomorrow but a Ha'waaaaay the lads for those that are..

    Joe..
     
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  2. Steven Royston O'Neill

    Steven Royston O'Neill Well-Known Member

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    Hi Joe, I have no idea how you do it Joe, love is great but what about Joe in all this. My mum has dementia, nothing to your problems Joe but I have to admit I hate seeing her how she is and if given the option, I honestly dont know.
     
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  3. Thing is Syd, I sometimes think Iv'e watched the lads for years so this is natural but to be serious everyday seems to get harder and not easier. I see a cracking little girl (ella) at two next week trying to help me get her mam off the sofa and into a wheelchair. I see lollie's beautiful face smiling and grimacing through pain and bow my head in shame that I have my arms and legs in use and she hasn't.

    If I could take it all from her, I would without a second thought and believe me I sometimes pray for that and I am not religious at all. Things we do for love and will do to make people happy especially those we love. I would still crawl over broken glass naked to see Lollie's smile and I suppose that keeps Joe as Joe needs..

    Syd, we have known each other a few years now and I have always said your a sound lad. Don't need to say be there for mam but my wishes are with you..

    Joe
     
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  4. Chappaz

    Chappaz Active Member

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    Far too potent of a topic for me to even try to say something credible. I really just can't even begin to imagine it.

    If someone wanted euthanasia, then I wouldn't stand in their way, but I'd trust that the person really understood what they wanted. Even healthy people have ups and downs and depressive moments in life, so someone in such a bad situation must have those 100x worse, but they are ups and big downs which they get through in time with support. However, euthanasia is for those who have reached a higher level above all of that. It's a level where they aren't seeking an escape from pain, but they're seeking peace in death. If someone comes to the frame of mind where they would look forward to such a thing, then perhaps it would be something to consider.

    If someone faced euthanasia with fear, or worry, or any feeling of impending doom, then it wouldn't be right for them. However, if they faced it with peace, with tranquility, and with a sense of happiness at the impending relief, then perhaps it would be the right thing to do.
     
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  5. A fine written piece that mate and very well thought out. Buy you a beer sometime & thanks for commenting on the thread <ok><ale>
     
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  6. newbottle bank

    newbottle bank Active Member

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    I'm useless at finding the right words, but I want you to know I was very moved by your post and I hope that in some way, everyday, things get a little better for you.
     
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  7. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    good evening Joe my friend,

    This is a subject which I've given a great deal of thought too over the nine years that have passed since I had to endure watching my dad die a slow and painful death due to illnesses he developed in the 44 years he worked down the pit. I still feel guilty to this day about the feelings of relief I felt when he eventually pased away...
    It's a very imotive subject, which I believe should be linked to quality of life and suffering...
    My thoughts are with you mate and I look forward to the next time we can share a beer...PS..It's my round next I believe...
     
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  8. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

    Somebodys pinched my sombrero Well-Known Member

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    Joe ~ A virtual man hug. Chin up mate.
     
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  9. A Virtual man 'needed that' & thanks..<ok>

    MrRAW

    Be up in the New Year, whoever the round, will be good to see you & the lads again.. :)
     
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  10. Thanks for the time to comment <ok>
     
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  11. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Gone up in estimation Chappy...

    Jesus Joe, it's people like you and your life, that makes me wish i could do something to help.

    Really strong men and devoted in the way you are are a credit to all.

    Euthanasia? Like Chappy says, sometimes it is the correct thing, but making that decision has got to be the ultimate decision anyone will ever make...
     
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  12. Hieronymus

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    I wrote several responses to this thread last night but erased them all as I could not find the right words.

    Chappaz' s excellent post captured how I feel about euthanasia but I wanted to express my feeling of sorrow and helplessness about Joe's unenviable position.

    Joe, in lieu of being able to do anything practical to help, you have my thoughts and prayers that you continue to have the strength to keep going.
     
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  13. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    hi joe just picked up the the thred good luck always nice to read your posts <bubbly>
     
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    Joe don't know how you do it, as a nurse I'm lucky I can walk away at the end of the day, where as you can't. My thoughts are with you and yours.
     
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  15. FTM Dave

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    Like Hieronymus I can't find the right words, but want to post anyway.

    I had pretty horribile decisions to make during both my parents' fatal illnesses.

    There was no euthanasia as such, of course, but in the end the doctor gave my Dad a dangerously-high dose of painkillers just to stop the brutal pain, and the injection caused a heart attack and his death. And it was the least bad thing that could have been done.

    Thoughts are with you Joe.

    If there is anything positive to say in all of this, think of the joy of bringing up your little girl and the bond you are building with her.

    All the best mate.
     
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    You are an incredibly strong bloke, Joe.

    My thoughts with you and the family.

    x
     
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  17. Billy Death

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    PM'd you marra.
     
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  18. jerseymackem

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    Joe, I could never begin to pretend to know anything about what you are going through, or how you're doing it. I don't know if you're religious or not, but I'll be keeping you and your family in your prayers. Stay strong, you truly are a hero.
     
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    My thoughts and prayers are with you throughout this time in your life. I have absolutely no idea of what you must be going through and appreciate the magnitude of the situation. I actually have nothing constructive to say, I just wanted to lend my support to a fellow human being (some things are way bigger than football.)
     
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