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The "will everton go down" thread

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by moreinjuredthanowen, Mar 23, 2022.

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Who will go down

Poll closed Mar 30, 2022.
  1. Norwich

    85.7%
  2. Burnley

    71.4%
  3. Watford

    57.1%
  4. Everton

    14.3%
  5. Leeds

    28.6%
  6. Brentford

    42.9%
  7. Newcastle

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Solid Air 2

    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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    honesty mate
     
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  2. Milk..

    Milk.. Well-Known Member

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    Maybe, but we've all thought it haven't we?
     
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  3. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    No
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    You are right tbh.

    A.bit of money and maybe he could do something but you.cant put a tactical European manager into the Newcastle and Everton of this world. They don't buy into the game plan really. Fans don't get it.
     
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Norwich lose
    Watford lose

    Meek.
     
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  6. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Remaining games for Everton, Watford and Burnley

    Everton:
    Liverpool a
    Chelsea h
    Leicester a
    Watford a
    Brentford h
    Palace h
    Arsenal a

    Burnley:
    Wolves h
    Watford a
    Villa h
    Spurs a
    Villa a
    Newcastle h

    Watford:
    City a
    Burnley h
    Palace a
    Everton h
    Leicester h
    Chelsea a
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Serious pressure now on everton.

    It's officially confirmed that they dropped two big points yesterday.

    The weekend is a tough one to call as wolves are hard to score off but I'd say more than easy to get a point off.

    But it's the follow on games now. Everton have disastrous 3 fixtures and then watofrd and Brentford as absolute must win games.

    I can see everton being bottom 3 when playing watford.
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    just going to throw this one in here.

    Aston Villa Remaining fixtures they are on 36 points. Burnley are on 28 points.

    Leicester (A)
    Norwich (H)
    Burnley (A)
    Liverpool (H)
    Crystal Palace (A)
    Burnley (H)
    Man City (A)

    Its not beyond the realm of possibility that Burnley could catch Villa here. Its highly unlikely given villa will hockey Norwich but.....
    If Burnley win twice and we beat them then its not impossible that city game might be for relegation?


    Leeds look more worried for me:

    Remaining fixtures

    Crystal Palace (A)

    Man City (H)
    Arsenal (A)
    Chelsea (H)
    Brighton (H)
    Brentford (A)

    Again the Southampton result puts Burnley only 5 points off Leeds. Leeds now need at least a couple of wins and those look a shocking set of fixtures.





    or this is just me looking for some hope that city will be tripped up




     
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  9. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    40 points no longer the benchmark for staying up.If Burnley can win three more games I cannot see why they cannot stay up.
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    3 more wins and they'll bring 3 clubs into the mix by the look of it.
     
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  11. Solid Air 2

    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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    told you sacking Dyche may well lead to an upturn for them but it may not be that big a swing .
     
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  12. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    its amazing really. thye have exploited a couple of beach loving teams there. west ham tired after europe and its a point and then Southampton just didn't look baothered and cannot defend. 3 points. thats massive at this time.

    their next game is much much tougher imo but after that its watford and villa. If burnely take 6 from 9 thats absolutely huge and imo they will need to.
     
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  13. Solid Air 2

    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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    I watched the Southampton game and they played in a much more fluid way than previously with passing stats right up .
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    it really is bizarre how these things work out.

    same set of players could look at each other and just give up in another year so it really is a never ending mystery how sides turn things round.
     
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  15. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Was listening to talksport earlier and thing made me laugh when talking about dyche and question was asked if he could manage a top 6 club.

    Now the guy has his team 18th and potentially relegation so not sure why top club would hire that… but even ignoring that.

    Think it was Trevor Sinclair saying that he could def do a job at top 6 club, if he was Italian would prob have a great chance etc.

    Now even if he was Italian, the guy has been fighting relegation the last few years albeit on a small budget. Playing long ball football which you can’t do at top clubs. And then you look at who the top clubs actually appointing.

    Pep - multiple league and CL winner with Barca and Bayern.
    klopp - title winner with dortmund
    tuchel - Dortmund and PSG coach
    Conte - PL and Serie A winner

    Not sure dyche Cv can really stack up. They moan about English managers not being given chance at top clubs, but you don’t see English managers going abroad to win things to put themselves in frame for very top clubs in England.
     
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  16. Solid Air 2

    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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    Roy Hodgson & Graee Potter spring to mind .Steve McLaren is a slightly different case since somehow he had been the England manager
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Look this is a perennial argument from some little englanders.

    Moyes. Zero support form man utd board ro buy real players and binned off asap

    Hodgson a tiny bit of results with Fulham.in Europe. We bin him in less than 6 months.

    Redknapp. Won at Portsmouth in the cup. Spurs manager. Got 4 years at spurs but didn't do great but not bad.

    Why anyone thinks doing a job to get 45 points is a qualification for having to deliver top 4 and go deep in Europe and cups is lunacy.

    Dyche's primary qualification is get 45points in 38 games. No extra European games, no incentive to do more than 2 or 3 Cup games. And he never put a cup run in as far as I recall.

    When teams can go get in a ten hag knowing they know what europenis about and how to manage a title race in a lesser league is certainly a lower risk than anyone else.
     
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  18. Milk..

    Milk.. Well-Known Member

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    Rodgers isn't English, but he is British/Northern Irish. He was given a chance at Liverpool and didn't do terrible.

    As mentioned above Hodgson and Redknapp had a chance in the big six and neither were really good enough. Redknapp had time, Hodgson didn't but it was clear he was terrible.

    United probably gave up on Moyes too soon. Moyes did better than SAF did in his first season. (Granted he inherited a much better team).

    Moyes was a better manager than most who followed him and he's proven himself decent with Everton and now again this season doing a great job.
     
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  19. quinneristops

    quinneristops Well-Known Member

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    There was Sunderland though, Moyes was awful there
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    In fairness he did averagely ok for a lad handed 32million for benteke. He was handed suarez at the start and the club seemed to get coutinho and he might have picked sturridge given his youth coaching at the oligarch nazi youth facility.

    Rodger sort of reminds me of of hasselhuth at Southampton. Masses of goals conceded but has a nice passing philosophy and sticks with it.

    He's only got the leicester job due to a dominant cleric position anyone could manage in. He's done well with it having vardy and won the fa cup which keeps the job but their defense is minging.

    It's a very mixed bag. The question is if leicester are a top 6 job at all or merely a top 10 one.
     
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