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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    The official line is,
    "A more complete Sue Gray report is expected to be released after the Metropolitan Police concludes their own investigation."

    Why?

    These are two independent enquiries ffs.

    It's like they're two schoolkids, in an exam, looking at each others answers <doh>
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Could it just be because all of the people taking photos were at the party so equally guilty <laugh>
     
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  3. Riever

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    The fact that Boris is still there bumbling along tells me that quite literally the Tories have nobody who they believe is squeaky clean enough to take over from him. There has never been a time when a leader of any party has been quite so damaged and distrusted that an ambitious rival has not stood up and tried to dislodge them.
     
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  4. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    It’s so frustrating. Here’s evidence of Boris having genuine regret
    He thinks he can just tell a few jokes, quote some Latin and mention Corbyn and all will be well. It clearly is for most of his party.
     
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  5. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    The thing is everybody now knows he broke the rules, disrespects the rule of law, undermines democracy, broke the law, lied to parliament, broke the ministerial code, that he introduces controversial policy to distract and retain power. This is not a ‘Labour gain power’ comment but people need to deal with him in the elections even if it’s a spoilt ballot. There has to be a consequence even if it’s just a protest, but a bad polling will be a positive awakening for his party devotees. I just want someone with ethics. This Rwanda stuff man? Utter bullshit, phenomenally expensive, won’t happen. Pure disrespect of the electorate for a few cheap points and to keep the pack dogs away.
     
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  6. Sunderpitt

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    My poor understanding of politics, is that atm several tories are jockeying for position to succeed him.

    However the first to do so and to try to oust him is usually labelled a 'stalking horse' which means somebody else then comes along to be the front runner. They all want somebody else to go first...
     
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  7. clockstander

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    My hope is that enough do, otherwise whats left to care about. ?
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

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    Not to worry mate.

    I don't believe anyone, on here, is an elected spokesman for the entire nation.

    As there are two enquiries, questions in the house and the main story on major news channels it's fair to say many people do care.
     
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  9. Saf

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    And all the MP's who disrespected democracy by attempting to overturn Brexit. You feel the same about them?

    That is why the Tories won by a landslide and I don't think people are ready to forgive the remain parties, yet.
     
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  10. rooch 3

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    Must admit I have never heard that. Anybody would be mental to want that job at the moment.
     
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  11. rooch 3

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    I agree with the Rwanda stuff.
     
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    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Are we all not hoping for that mate.
     
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  13. rooch 3

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    I’m afraid that tells you everything you need to know.
     
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    The Brexit referendum was a Tory engineered fraud from start to finish, the only winner was Putin or so he thought, the real consequences of the vote are far from clear.
     
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  15. Pure River Slut

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    For Brexit;
    1 Cameron threw in the referendum to stay in control in his party. Should never have happened. The biggest issue by a mile.
    2 Anyone trying to remain after the vote got it wrong. It disrespected democracy. The right deal should have been the focus but right wing Tories also prevented the right deal.
    3 Not respecting the 49% was wrong ie it should have been a balance like the vote not the right wing idealogue version we got. That also disrespected the electorate. A lot of leavers disrespect the 49% a lot of remainers disrespect the 51%
    4 The deal these lot adopted has affected our (meaning everyday people not the elite) wealth and the functioning of the country so they should negotiate a better one but many are in denial despite evidence that says otherwise including our own chancellor.
    It’s a disaster. Usual Johnson incompetence and arrogance.
    Does that answer your question?
     
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    Which could explain a lot - why not let Boris take the blame for everything now (let's face it he deserves to) and when things have settled down a bit then stand up as an alternative.

    I still reckon that all of the big hitters are severely compromised one way or another though and they probably need partygate to go away before anybody credible will put themselves forward.
     
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  17. rooch 3

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    I mean with what the government are doing.
     
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  18. rooch 3

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    I don’t believe there is anyone credible.
     
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    I agree something has to be done about the illegal channel crossings and the traffickers who are profiting from it.
    I am not sure if Rwanda is the answer but tbh I don't have a scooby what the answer should be.
     
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  20. rooch 3

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    One of my previous posts let’s you know why I agree with it.
     
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