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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 19th April)

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  1. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    I've highlighted the last paragraph below to see if we're talking about the same last paragraph. If yes, perhaps you could indicate where this agreement is.

    Eddie Nketiah has defended criticism of Marcelo Bielsa’s Leeds United training methods after Jesse Marsch blamed the club’s injury problems on ‘overtraining’. Plenty of supporters were quick to make their feelings known about the American’s comments as they felt as though it ignored some of the many achievements from the Argentine's tenure at the club.

    In defence of Marsch, it isn’t anything that others haven’t already said but it understandably left a bitter taste in the mouths of the Elland Road faithful. While admitting that the intensity was like nothing else he had seen previously, Nketiah felt its benefits in terms of development outweighed the risk of potential injury.

    “It’s difficult to say whether it’s wrong because I felt like he was getting the best out of the players that he had,” the former Leeds loan star told The Beautiful Game Podcast. “Everyone was improving a lot, even myself.

    “I’m not going to lie, the training was hard. Sometimes I like to go out to eat [after training] but I can’t remember any time going out to eat, I was going back home to sleep! I was coming back from training knackered.

    “That was the first time I really felt like I’ve been pushed out of my comfort zone. Almost every day I was coming in thinking I need to rest so that I could be ready for training again.

    “It was good, obviously it’s difficult because you see that they get a lot of injuries because over time it’s hard to sustain that intensity whilst playing like that every game. It’s difficult but, in terms of a development point of view, it helps a lot.”

    Nketiah struggled for game time in the half-season that he spent at Leeds so for him to come out with such praise for Bielsa’s methods says a lot about just how useful he found it. Incidentally, just as he looked set for a run in the team on the back of a few strong cameo appearances during the 2019/20 campaign, a training injury halted his progress.

    Upon his return to training following the issue, he once again failed to break into the starting XI and was subsequently recalled by Arsenal at the beginning of the January transfer window. In spite of all that, he continues to claim that his spell at Elland Road was extremely beneficial for his overall development.
     
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    i’ll help you out wj… the end of the article was hidden by ads on mobile.

    this was the paragraph xpod referred to:

    “It was good, obviously it’s difficult because you see that they get a lot of injuries because over time it’s hard to sustain that intensity whilst playing like that every game. It’s difficult but, in terms of a development point of view, it helps a lot.”

    It’s a classic Leeds-live junk article with junk headline to suit click bait narrative.

    Nketiah is thankful for his development under bielsa,,, but his comments actually highlight injuries - so if anything he supports marsch’ comments.

    In short, he’s saying : improves fitness but increases injuries.
     
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    You have more paragraphs than I could see
     
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  4. Whitejock

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    Aye, but that's what I'd say if I was him, from a personal pride point of view. What were these injuries & was it established by an expert in the field, or was it Nketiha making up reasons for his failure with us?

    Many things increase injuries, the most common one being trying too hard, particularly when returning from injury. And that is prolly where Nketia's injuries came from.
     
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  5. milkyboy

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    he says ‘they get injuries’ - not referring to his own. Don’t doubt you’re right that he’s not an expert… but you were ready to use him as one when you thought it suited your argument <laugh><laugh>
     
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  6. Norwayleedsforever

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    I’m watching the Everton-Leicester game. Don’t have anything against Everton, but every time I see the face of Fat Frank I just want them to go down.
     
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    So can someone tell me which para was being referred to? I can't see a relevant one. However, on re-reading, the first line sticks out: "Eddie Nketiah has defended criticism of Marcelo Bielsa’s Leeds United training methods after Jesse Marsch blamed the club’s injury problems on ‘overtraining’. Pretty much suits my argument ...
     
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  8. milkyboy

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    feel the same. It’s a joy watching his little petulant sulks on the sidelines.

    Burnley staying up and Everton getting relegated wound also have the bonus of another crap team in the league next season. Hard to imagine Everton not getting their act together eventually.
     
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  9. milkyboy

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    jeez fella… you already replied to my post where I picked it out!

    here it is again:

    “It was good, obviously it’s difficult because you see that they get a lot of injuries because over time it’s hard to sustain that intensity whilst playing like that every game. It’s difficult but, in terms of a development point of view, it helps a lot.”

    your ‘suits my argument’ line is just some muppet from Leeds live dangling you a click

    but hey what does it matter anyway <cheers>
     
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  10. Eireleeds1

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    Who’s showing that. Can’t find it
     
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    Oh, it is on TV2 Sport 1. All the games is on the telly over here:emoticon-0148-yes:
    Well that was not entirely true:emoticon-0127-lipss. Newcastle-Palace is streamed on TV2 Play:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Two goals now for Eddie so far tonight
     
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  13. Whitejock

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    All I see is an opinion from a player who didn't cut it with us & was out injured most of the time. No surprise that he took this line to deflect from his failure. It's convenient for him & after all, Karen Cairney believes it, so it must be true.

    As you can see from the line I highlighted, he is defending Bielsa's training methods, not rubbishing them!
     
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  14. milkyboy

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    well I’m glad you’ve cleared that up! <laugh><laugh><laugh>

    You interpret what you want fella. It’s a free country <cheers>
     
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