Boris reported to the Met

You can be adamant with those 2 comments for as long as you wish ... what is the smokescreen? Check back through the PMQ's .... his comments centred around advise given, and never denied it... the case revolves around the fact there were so called parties ... without all the razz ma tazz of a party!!! he did not know about ... thats why he requested an enquiry to determine the extent of mis behaviour.

 

Out of interest which part of his speech did you disagree with?, because I thought he was spot on.

 

It comes out of the book " 101 speech's an MP might make in parliament".
I didnt say I disagreed with him making a speech [edit ], but would say I am not swayed toward it. He would be one of the MP's you might expect to MAKE SUCH a speech to garner points for his own aims by opposing Boris as he has visions of being the next PM

 

That’s a bit harsh, he made points, which you admit you don’t disagree with, and took a principled stance. I’m no expert, but surely if he’s looking to be the next PM, he’d be better keeping his powder dry for now.

 

as said everyone is entitled to their own opinions ...

Mark Harper served as the Government Chief Whip under David Cameron between 2015 and 2016 before being removed by Theresa May when she became Prime Minister.

He previously served as Minister of State for Disabled People (2014-2015),

Harper was the Minister of State for Immigration between 2012 and 2014, but resigned in 2014 when it was discovered that his cleaner was an illegal immigrant. He had been Parliamentary Secretary at the Cabinet Office between 2010 and 2012.

Harper supported Remain in the 2016 EU referendum.

Harper stood in the 2019 Conservative Party leadership election, but was soon eliminated from the contest having secured the backing of just a handful MPs.

In 2021, he was one of the most outspoken MPs in relation to the need for a faster easing of Covid 19 restrictions. He served as Chair of the Covid Recovery Group, a group of MPs opposed to the continuation of lockdown restrictions.

 

None of that changes the fact he made points that you didn’t disagree with, I get you’re suggesting he has an agenda, but my point still stands, he made a good argument, and you don’t disagree with him. Btw I still think his was a stance of principle as he’d be better served keeping his powder dry for now.

 

probably needs clarification .. everyone entitled an opinion or comments, so he made a speech not fussed he did, but what he says does not sway me to believing he is right or wrong its his opinion.
Same as mine[ entitled to an opinion] we should concentrate on other matters like UKRAINE/IMMIGRATION/INFLATION the first 2 will have a serious affect on the third. not saying the misbehaviour/ misnamed partygate is not an important issue, it is but in the current circumstances there are more important things to concentrate on. Parliament time is very tight.

Amazing where all the gobby MP'S go after dinner or teatime!! ministers etc you could expect to be busy. Take a look at the house when debating many other important factors after 6pm, about a dozen, sometimes 2 dozen out of 600 or so!

 

I happen to think that lying to parliament is a sackable offence and anyone caught doing it should be expelled in disgrace if they wont resign, whatever their party or their position.
Sadly, Boris Johnson will cling onto power however he can - not unlike Putin in that respect.

On a side note; Boris and his cronies get fined £50 for breaking lockdown rules by having a party.
A hairdresser just down the road from me got fined £6k. Getting your hair cut is arguably more important than a boozy party - where is the consistency?

 

what exactly are the words that constitute "the lie?"

 

the 3 paper articles
sir K closer than 2m socializing indoors enclosed space and not wearing a mask
Nickerless caught twice for same thing!

 

There is a vast difference, there are rules over what is and is not allowed, that’s why Boris initially thought what he did wasn’t illegal, plainly the police and probably Sue Grey thought otherwise, whereas what Kier did was legally, that’s why neither Sue Grey or the police got involved.
Plus of course it wasn’t just one incident with Boris, he’s the PM and under his watch I believe 30 FPN’s have been issued with potentially many more to follow, quite possibly several more for Boris himself. He then repeatedly was economical with the truth to parliament to compound the matter.,As for forgetting to put your mask on, whilst an offence it’s not really in the same league tbf. I imagine as soon as she realised she put it on, she also didn’t deny it multiple times in the Scottish parliament.

 

really bending the law for one not another is OK!

 

SORRY officer I thought it was ok to do xxxmph when no one else around .. sorry Harriet you government people make the rule and you could have killed someone .. I see you been done a couple times before!!... not 3rd tie lucky for you!

 

Don’t be ridiculous, if you can’t see the difference there is really no hope.

 

Not even a relevant comment

 

I actually agree with this Wiz.
I'm not singling out Boris - I'm singling out ALL of them who break the law.
The Opposition MPs need to be fined/punished too including Starmer, but I do think, in the examples you gave, that the Tory cabinet members, plus Sturgeon in Scotland should be fined/punished more severely because they CREATED the laws in the first place - making them hypocrites as well as lawbreakers.
If you make a law, and then you tell the police to enforce your law, then it's imperative that you abide by it yourself. If a policeman breaks the law then he is dealt with very severely - it's a similar thing.

 

I can plainly see the difference as can most on here I suspect ... what is the point of the law if it is not fairly meted out... there are people in this country that got fined for not wearing masks .... mind you 100's of 000's probably doing more than Boris ... I witnessed loads ... no one complained , hang on yes there was somebody complained about a group who were having a picnic where I went for a walk about 7 or 8 adults and a dozen kids .. about 5pm! lived in the houses 50- 250m away. checked my log book on my phone it was 27th of May I passed them [ wide berth ] at about 3 50pm.Woman whom I spoke to [ good 3m apart ] told me not to go up "there" she had phoned police and said ... all they said was thankyou for the info we will see what we can do ...it was an hour later and no one came!
handy those map my walk app's [waiting]