Don’t think you appreciate the mood of the country. Rapes-crime-Theft-muggings all increased since the influx. Their ways are so different to us in the western world.
I don't think it will happen either. The luvvie lawyers can't wait. I also think the government know as well, they are play acting. Bloody shame.
I’ll stick to my opinion, there’s always been and always will be migration. We’ve always been open to allowing entry to persecuted people, look at how generous we were to Ukrainians. We’re a generous nation and long may it continue. Of course there always has been people, like you, who talk up the negatives, but thankfully they’re a minority, if often a vocal one.
Posturing by Boris and co, if as you say they know it’s not legal. Obviously they want to appear tough to give succour to the right wing of the Tory party,
JUSTICE ..in a way ..an illegal immigrant in Belgium who was intending by his own words to sneak into UK [ has no paperwork passport or ID ] won £250,000 on a Belgium lottery card. AMAZING had money to spare!. However it is a 2 edge sword .. he claimed his money and was told you need a bank account! So he got 2 "friends" to go to Bruges? WHO HAD PASSPORTS Aand ID ...They were thrown in jail as suspected thieves of the card [ overnight] . A day later the ticket holder confirmed the plot! ... ticket is now with the lottery people .. who stated we will pay out the money hopefully before he gets exported back to homeland! ticket winner says I now want to live in Belgium and buy a house and find a wife ...really! The french lottery only pays out to residents [larger sums ] as I found out when a couple from Kent on the campsite had a winner . Luckily they told the campsite owner who claimed it for them, it was about £20k in EURO's ... happy side like us liked the site and bought a caravan and paid 5 years rent up front .... we went to site for 8 years on the trot .. met them once more afterwards, had 2 kids ... rented it out via campsite owner [ small income! ] and 2 weeks before season and 4 weeks after season [ thats french month of holidays ] they let for free to a french care home for 2 peeps +carer......
No football today, so take an afternoon cuppa in the garden with a laptop and research immigration .............. you will be introduced to a whole new world you dont seem to seeing now! Sometimes RR gets on the right train! and to be honest... NO to be brutal, even bruttally honest over the past 20 years our so called "generous nation" has been put upon but greedy free loaders, who are encouraged by criminal gangs who brain wash them... like Putin does the Russians! ... to extract their cash. Crime rates have soared and remove criminals with a heritage of UK that goes back beyond 1950 and you will see the damage ... drugs/extortion/robbery and the worst child sex slavery .... where did the perps of at least 6 gangs come from ...its on the net!
Most migrants settle here, become valuable, and law abiding citizens, without them our nation would be by far the worse. Obviously there are bad examples too, but on balance our nation is enhanced by migrants.
sorry a minority yes the majority no. This country has given far to much to the wrong people and not looked after our own.
yep they generate jobs ... for insurance workers/ police/ prison officers and to some extent council workers.....
AshtonRed said: ↑ Most migrants settle here, become valuable, and law abiding citizens, without them our nation would be by far the worse. Obviously there are bad examples too, but on balance our nation is enhanced by migrants. The weekly hotel cost of illegal immigration is running at £5m a week. The UK population has grown by approaching 10 million people since the year 2000 and a lot of that is by immigratiom. We simply cannot continue with this rate for a small island. The NHS, THAT WE PAY FOR waiting lists are currently at 6m people with some people waiting over 4 years for some treatments at the moment . Adding more and more illegals who get fast tracked for treatment above our own citizens, and get free dental treatment is a total disgrace and the electorate are getting angrier and angrier and who can blame them ? The annual cost of illegal immigration exceeds £4bn when you factor in giving these people food, money, phone etc etc etc plus the salaries of Border Force, Police, Social Care, Home Office etc. We have British families living below the poverty line all over the country and homeless people on the streets of every town and city, made worse by the current cost of living pressures. Do you not think that we should be looking after our own citizens before some unidentified middle eastern person who may, or may not be a risk to society, because I do. The people coming here illegally are not real refugees, nor are they coming directly from a war torn country like Ukraine. They are coming from a 3rd safe country, France. These are economic migrants and many of them who do evade capture on our shores will not be paying tax and NI, as they will be working for peanuts in Kebab houses or Indian restaurants. Modern slavery. If people want asylum and can prove they are worthy of it/are in danger for their lives, then they shouldn't be destroying their passports and should be catching a flight to the UK where they can be assessed immediately by Border Force. If they are successful then fair enough. If they do not qualify then they should be sent back on the next flight from where they came from. We're accused of being a racist nation yet we've taken in people from all over the world in huge numbers in my lifetime, and these are people who want to come here above France, Germany etc. But the current mess has to be sorted and fast. I would rather take 1m Ukrainian women and their children while the men stay and fight the Russians. The total opposite of true of the young men aged 20-30 who turn up on a dinghy having left their women kids behind in the middle east.
Remind me , how many Ukrainians have successfully got into the country, and how many people have offered to take them in and offer them accommodation?, why are people that offer accommodation actually expected to nominate the refuges themselves personally, are they supposed to search the internet and find refuges that want to come here, and now tell me we have a system fit for purpose,,it’s a disgrace, and you honestly believe people can just fly in and be assessed by border force, I would agree with most of what you say ,IF there was a decent legitimate way to get in, the trouble is there isn’t, so legitimate refuges get mixed up with illegitimate ones. Even the ones that would get through if the system was fit for purpose are forced to use dodgy means of getting here. It’s a farce.
the finding "houes/places to stay" [ family ] is not going to be over in 10 mins let alone 4 or 5 months or...... the one warning given so far is .. " do not allow female/+children/+ older +younger siblings + parents .. in a domicile with single [adult?] males. I think the the plan is to ensure compatibility so as not to cause disruption ater a short time. After all these people will likely be here for 3 years +/-. Someone displaced from a major city may not fit in with staying in a village in the middle of Exmoor and vice versa. Or have musical inclinations and stay with some one hates it! etc etc etc... Besides the fact a person from UKRAINE may be good at jobs in the country again vice versa ... sort of horses for courses! We do need agricultural inclined people .... to do the jobs some of 3m who just their job as life long freeloaders
I agree but the biggest problem is that parliament is infested with failed lawyers and they will not make legal aid far more difficult to achieve for their parasite mates still practising law and France is never going to be a viable option for many migrants because legal aid barely exists, so all of the pirates, vagabonds and violent migrant chancers know even if they are found out to be in this category, parasite human rights will get unlimited funds to fight their cases. We even saw this for one of the leaders of the Rochdale grooming gang, who was apart from being a multiple rapist an illegal immigrant but has won the right to stay in our country.
They are both ****ty politicians and are in very good company with just about all of the 648 other ****ty politicians that self serve themselves at our expense, we deserve better all round. Starmer is meant to be a lawyer, who deals in facts, my point about the lack of point on a person born female is a fact, but apparently why let facts get in the way of a few woke votes. Yesterday a female senior police officer stated that it should be an offence to stare at somebody, she never said whether it should be a male only offence but I suspect that it undoubtedly will be, I wonder how long saint Kier before supports that little nugget for even more woke votes?
I see you have no problem identifying a male of the species ... correct observation. Better than some MP's that struggle!
