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  1. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Exactly get rid of NP if you wish but believe me the cancer will still have a hold on our club.
    NP is big enough and strong enough to deal with it.
    Your choice fans of Bristol City FC.
     
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    A lot of these players were giving more under a previous (lesser experienced) manager. So, why can't NP get more from them? That is what I find the most infuriating about this season for me. He has made us worse, he can cry me a river about players, finances etc. but he has to look in the mirror and ask is he, and his coaches doing enough?
     
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    I agree with this too.
    Lets look at his big decisions in more detail:
    He let Pato and Fammy leave, but didn't replace either of them - 'because of wages' apparently. Ok, we ARE skint - so we go and sign Simpson.......... :emoticon-0121-angry
    He wouldn't play our most expensive 'assets' (Wells and Palmer - AND Simpson when he was here) - which is fair enough if he doesn't think they are good enough (apart from Simpson - why sign him if he's ****?), ...... but then at the same time won't allow Palmer to go to Cardiff, which would have freed up some BIG wages. Why? Maybe he was scared that he might start playing a tune under a different (better) manager who actually PLAYS him perhaps!!
    None of the above makes common sense for a regime strapped for cash - we can't bleat on and on (blah blah blah) about money wasted by MA and LJ, when he goes and does this.
    Kalas - he had a GREAT Euro tournament for his country - but Pearson dropped him from little ole Brizzle City. Bizarre. This smells of a dressing-room fallout to me - a clash of egos maybe? Kalas doesn't strike me as a Billy Big Bollox (but I admit I don't know him personally, so I could be wrong)

    ALL the above have been MANAGEMENT decisions - and bloody poor ones.

    Nigel Pearson has been a poor manager so far. I'm extremely disappointed.

    Weimann is playing well though - thank Christ.

    No I still don't want NP sacked - yet - believe it or not, it IS possible for me to criticise the manager without wanting him replaced. However, I don't buy any more of this 'he inherited a **** squad' bollocks any more. He did his bit to CREATE the '****' squad, so if the squad really IS '****' then it's partly of his own making. To be fair to Nigel, it's just some of our FANS who are saying this, not Pearson himself.
    He needs to pull his finger out and do the job he's paid to do - lets not forget that he's being paid more than ANY other manager in the history of our club - EVEN MORE THAN LEE JOHNSON WAS!!
    Some of his decisions defy logic and he really needs to step up. I'm really beginning to wonder if he is a 'one hit wonder' (Leicester) - like Wilson (Barnsley)

    I seriously hope NOT - for all our sakes.
     
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    Well put, but wasn’t it Wells Cardiff wanted? To replace Keifer Moore leaving them.
     
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    You may be right - in which case that would have saved even MORE wages.
    'Nahki Wells has the highest salary at Bristol City, earning £27,000 per week' - Wiz.s post from another thread.
    That would have saved a lot of money.
     
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    I really agree with you on the criticism part. It seems everyone Nige walks on water gang, think we are not allowed an opinion, or we must want him sacked.
    I don’t want him sacked, I want him to work out what’s wrong and sort it rather than chucking players under the bus.
    He’s an ex defender, Fleming is an ex defender. We are conceding goals like a sieve. So let’s start on that, and make us harder to beat.
    We all had a opinion on Simpson, but he was the only recognised RB so Nige started a academy forward in RB role. We probably paid Simpson up until the summer anyway, so sometimes it’s better the devil you know. If there was behind the scenes things like big Billy bollocks, surely the 3 months before the 12 month extension could have foreseen that. And then release Simpson but give Jack Hunt a years contract. At least that would have kept a RB there rather than relying on a L2 possibility coming good.
     
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    Yup, so it was reported - dodged a bullet there.
     
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  8. RedorDead

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    Depends on if you got the BCFC version or the QPR version. I read that he just wants to play, so I guess if he got a chance elsewhere he would have gone all out to try and impress.
     
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    He assembled a team that made up the core of that title-winning side, with the likes of Anthony Knockaert, Jamie Vardy, Riyhad Mahrez and Wes Morgan, all playing in the Championship two years prior.

    “For me, the worst thing you can do is not trust me and treat me like a child. It is the worst thing you can do as if you treat me like a child I will behave like a child and I’ll be childish"

    .They have also created a successful business model that has allowed them to sell players like Harry Maguire and Riyad Mahrez, before reinvesting it astutely into the squad and creating state-of-the-art training facilities.“

    No matter who you are, you treat everybody with respect, you talk to people properly, we socialise and get on with one another.”

    Not going to make any replies [ yet ] but key points which on the face of it simulate with BCFC, although not in same order as such, but would say maybe the latter one is where some of the damage may be ....like constantly stating play 100% or p--- o--!
     
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    Well said, took a lot of words out of my mouth which I couldn't be arsed to type!! <laugh>
     
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    BTW The reason Simpson matters so much to me is because after Wells and Palmer he was our biggest wage earner - at a time when there was little or no wage budget
    Also, your comments about NP and defence - he goes and drops Kalas - our best defender and one of the few players we have that has the chance of playing in a premiership side.
     
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    yes it is toted around quite a bit, but the comment on going to Thailand is an add on, think he writes a column, so Bristol World just cobbled it together ... good to be kept up to date .. keep it up WIZ!
     
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    THERE was apparently issues with Simpson ... wont state categorically! But NP was being a good samaritan .. hopefully believing he might come good!????
    I reckon he was a one trick pony sort of! [ in time wise scenario] was at right place right time had the players [ bit like our core of 5 or 6 ] but that is where it ended.. a sort of SC + LJ without MA!
     
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    He’s a good striker at championship level - he proved it at QPR.
    We can’t get a tune from him though - and he’s just not worth £27k per week.
     
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    Simpson was not third highest Kalas is.
     
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    you have to play him regular ...game time wise ....
     
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    If that £27K a week had to be met, I'm not surprised it was "only an enquiry". As far as I read, it was Pearson who refused to let him go out to a bottom half rival - I think you'd started to head south in the table about that time. We got Hugill off Norwich to lead the line instead, and he'll do for us.
     
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    yup spot
    yup spot on £27k ..?
     
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    Actually second:

    Bristol City 2022 Wages | Player & Team totals (salarysport.com)

    ....... but you are correct that Simpson wasn't 3rd - he was 5th. My mistake.
    £15k per week is still a lot of money for a player who never plays - in a skint side trying to save wages though.

    .. and whether they are worth the money or not, Weimann and Kalas (when fit) actually try hard to wear the shirt with pride.
     
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    None of our wages are or has been particularly high for Championship clubs, which is why I can't compute why are losses our so high. The other thing is, you have to pay higher wages to compete, we were in and around the playoffs for a couple of seasons, and a good cup run raises a club's profile, which in turn means to get the players in means their agents ask for more. The one advantage of the 15 months $hiteshow of NP is that we won't be attracting players who want huge wages, as they won't want to come to us anymore....
     
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