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Match Day Thread Thread to watch and enjoy the blood cup (soulless)

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  1. saintanton

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    The Celts only arrived in Britain about 500 years before the Romans.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Britons, picts, celts, Romans, angles, jutes, saxons, Normans and of course the nicely of this world would say this pure blood is poisoned by all the poles invading or something.

    The Welsh apparently are closest to iron age Briton tribes today while England is basically the post roman tribes.
     
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    The Romans tended to assimilate indigenous tribes, so the culture of Southern Britain during their occupation is usually considered Romano-British, a blend of Roman and Celtic. When Rome abandoned its colony the Angles and Saxons and Uncle Tom Cobley and all came in for a piece. Wales remained a stronghold of the Celts.
    My point was that the Celts weren't here for thousands of years before the Romans - it's believed they moved in from the continent in the first century BC.
    Although I think modern estimates are perhaps a little earlier than I first said - can't remember all the details. I'm just pointing out that some people appear to think the Celts have been here for ever but that isn't true - earlier Bronze Age people weren't Celts.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Yeah but the Briton tribe were that bronze/iron age, celtic peoples. And in terms of dna is most represented in Welsh folk. This was 1000bc

    theres verious evidence of pre ice age peoples and mesolithic post ice age settlement which is 10,000 years or so and a profile like russian steppes

    The evidence is fascinating of waves of surplanting tribes etc.

    Pre Rome there was no such thing as 3 countries but rather many tribal areas and post Rome the wessex, mercia, Northumbrian kingdoms align with jutes, angles and saxon invasion directions and Wales is the celtic era remnant. The Romans made up the term picts for scottish celts so again similar.

    It's all archaeological as these tribes didn't write things down.
     
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  5. saintanton

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    Yes. Even the Celts were several different types, Belgic, Iberian etc.
     
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    The conclusions demolish Qatar 2022’s abrasive appeals to reform, and how critics must “educate themselves”, from last week’s World Cup draw.


    Among the findings that came from interviews with 59 former and current employees across eight companies, right up to February 2022, were:

    • Pay discrimination on the basis of nationality, race and language
    • Substandard and “unsanitary” living conditions with up to 10 people sharing cramped rooms
    • A high majority of security guards working 12 hours a day, with no days off, for months and even years on end
    • Workers being threatened with large salary deductions if they want to take rest days
    • Huge fines for mistakes at work
    • Forced work outside without shelter in searing heat
    • Half of the security companies not paying overtime at the rate required by law
    • All eight of the private security companies “failed to meet their responsibility to respect human rights under international standards and have breached various provisions of Qatar law.
     
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    You have to wonder how this whole fiasco has been allowed to continue. It's just a game, the human cost of this is well beyond any justification.
    Apart from the shocking number of deaths amongst migrant workers, it makes me wonder about the safety of the structures themselves. Untrained or poorly trained workers operating in extremely difficult conditions in a country that seems to have scant regard for safety doesn't fill me with confidence.
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    we are talking a level of deaths that lead to sanctions for russia in ukraine (that has now exceeded) yet cos its just kocking up some statiums nobody seems to give a damn.

    Its not "white Europeans" so that is frankly racist crap.

    This world cup will not be watch by me.

    I full expect the sweet Caroline brigade to be celebrating all the way to the final etc.
     
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    Tiresias Well-Known Member

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    Most footie fans won't give a fook as long as they can sit consuming beer and feeding their football craving.
    To borrow part of a quote from the Great man.
    ' I wouldn't watch the world cup if it was played at the bottom of my garden'
     
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    According to old histories, it was actually the Welsh who invited the first Anglo-Saxons over to help fight the Irish who started raiding as soon as the Romans left. No solid proof that that actually happened but a lot of the old Welsh and Saxon scholars 1000 years ago believed that to be true.

    If it is true, has to be the biggest mistake they ever made.
     
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    Not heard that one - interesting. Like bringing the neighbour in to help fight your brother.
     
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    Supposedly King Vortigern (sp?) was having trouble with the Irish raiding his shores so he hired two warlord brothers Hengist and Horsa to come help him fight and gave them a small island off Kent as a base of operations. They defeated the Irish and then decided their island wasn't big enough so conquered Kent and that became the first Anglo Saxon kingdom. (Think technically they were Jutes).

    Hengist then sent word back of the conquest (Horsa died) and more raiders came and the other Angon Saxon kingdoms were founded.

    No solid proof that Vortigern, Hengist, or Horsa ever actually lived... But that's the story Bede and his contemporaries believed was the founding of England. Probably legend but maybe some truth.

    Hengist and Horsa have some legends associated with them in parts of Germany too... So it's probably a case of the story is partially correct, but they took characters fr.legend and assigned them to real people.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    bump.

    this thread was made for Qatar 2022. its here now. one nice place to keep it all.
     
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    you're better off making it the history thread tbh….far more interesting than a Southgate line up.
     
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    Football history or just history?
     
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    pedant
     
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    Would that be a foot soldier?<laugh>
     
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  18. Spurlock

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    Cant wait to watch it

    going to be one of the best
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Blood sport.

    Plus I've seen enough world cups to know that people have said the same bloody thing about every one and it's extremely rare to have anything bar very average football.

    86 wasn't bad but it was lit up by the cheat.
    90 was abysmal.
    94 was very average, Brazil were not thst great were they?
    98 was all Zidane and of course the I can run fast sensation.
    02, Brazil were good. The final was dramatic. It was a good tournament imo.
    06. Meh.
    10 was absolutely awful, bad football design that just rose over the bar instantly and those horns.
    14. An odd one. We had the massive shocking hammering of Brazil. Really Germany were flying and athletic. The Spain shock, the messi run with Argentina to the final. Loafs of stuff going on there.
    18. Bribed cup. Very poor tournament.

    Overall there's not that much going in here to be looking forward to.

    France, bit meh.. let down in euros.
    Spain, not the force they were by a long shot
    Germany, look poor enough for past years.
    Brazil, very much seen as favourites but we will see.
    Portugal, well down on where they were.
    Argies the same.
     
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    should have just said you’re a miserable ****

    would have saved all that tapping
     
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