Transfer Rumours Let's ignore the big ****ing elephant and blame the latest manager, again. Are we nearly there yet?

Of course there is, CL will attract any new manager we chase, the new man will hopefully have a full pre-season with the squad and will (should) have been able to get some new players in.

 

Players who were signed by other people and were trained by other people.

Bottom line is, he's absolutely correct.

I think we're better off finishing out of the top four so some of those players **** off that bit quicker.

 

Two more bad results and we could easily finish 9th

 

I've got very little doubt we'll make Everton look good on Saturday!

 

He may well be a great assessor of players but is this for public consumption or for the club? I personally think (for a while now) he talks too much and gives away too much in terms of his thinking. The great managers like Fergie and Pep may talk too but when you analyse it they’ve not really given anything away. A period of silence or spouting banalities would be welcome from Rangnick.

 

I don't think he's giving too much away by pointing out half of them are spineless sacks of ****.

 

Is this how he thinks he can get the players to perform better? It’s one thing for others to say it but for the manager as I said in my earlier post to do it is rather strange. That’s why he’s been a very poor manager.

 

No idea, but if it sparks a clear out is it that bad a thing?

You've a bunch of players giving up on trying for 4th when the opposition for fourth is Spurs and Arsenal for **** sake. Spurs and Arsenal!

This is the squad that were told by the previous manager that they weren't good enough to win the league when they were actually top going into the new year last year.

The manager at the time said that, publicly.

Do you honestly believe what Ranginck is saying is any worse than the blabber Ole used to come with?

 

To say that many players shouldn’t even have been recruited is crass in the extreme. Is this fault of the players or the club to recruit players who do not fit? Definitely not the way to do it if he really wants the players to play for him. Rangnick has been a failure as a manager and that probably explains it. He doesn’t seem to understand human nature. To get people to give you 100% treat them like ****. BTW since you brought up Ole he didn’t do too badly in getting the players to give him a long unbeaten away run and 2nd and 3rd place. Definitely better that Rangnick who is much much worse than I thought he would be.

anyway isn’t the job of the manager to make sure that the players fight for that 4th place?

 

Yes, and there's no doubt that his selections haven't helped.

Not playing a striker was a signal that he's not being helped. Both Ronaldo and Cavani came back from international duty and didn’t fancy it.

Rashford is being Rashford.

In this instance, you've got to give culpability to the players. Personally, I'd have started Rashford and given him the chance at No.9 but something is going on there.

Again, is that all Ragnick? I'm not surprised he was pissed off by the lack of effort on Saturday.

Ole pandered to them and sucked arse, and they still didn't play for him.
Because they knew he had their backs, so didn't give that extra zip. It wasn't his job to be their best mate though, he was too far the other way.

Sooner the Pogba's, Lingard's and Cavani's of this world go, the better for the club it will be.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55388045

It wasn't long after this that Ole decided to do a press conference whereby he more or less said we weren't actually in a title race and that we weren't quite there, shouldn't get carried away, and that Liverpool and City were better than us so don't expect too much.

It's at this point also, it all went completely to **** for/by him.

Without wishing to trawl through my posts, I pointed this out at the time, and pointed out what a ludicrous mistake he'd made in saying all this.

How can a manager of Manchester United say, when top or thereabouts going into a new year, that we aren't actually challenging for the title ffs!?! He gave his players a free pass.

A free pass they have been using ever since. Add to that the EL final debacle, and it's obvious he should have gone at the end of the season. (we'd have an actual manager now, instead of an interim the players are wary of)

We'd finished distant second though, and had reached a final, so he got a new contract. Fair enough I suppose, carrying on at least, but his card was marked. (although why was Woodward constantly dishing out unneccessary new contracts based on failure to win anything)

Look at the team on the day we beat leeds 6-2 above.

To that we've added Varane, who is an improvement on Lindelof, Sancho and Ronaldo. How did we fall off a cliff so severely for **** sake? I'd had us to win the league on the PL board predictions!

Rashford has his issues as we all know, and selling Dan James to accomodate Ronaldo getting No.7 (Cavani getting 21 and giving 9 back to Martial) is an obvious mistake. There was no need, James remains a promising player who caused no trouble and isn't paid mega wages, we should have just got rid of Martial instead at this point to be absolutley honest.

Was this an Ole mistake, or was it forced on him?

Whatever, we were ****e from the start of this season and Ole rightly went. The capitulation goes back further than that though, it goes back to not accepting the title challenge the previous season. The new signings walked into a dressing room who weren't motivated, and even worse, weren't hungry. Because City and Liverpool were better, the manger had told them that last season.

Rangnick now knows this, and has his hands full turning the tide. Whether people like it or not, this is now his job, to root our the half arsed spoofers.

Both ten Hag or Pochettino will improve this lot no end, once four or five have been shown the door.

 

We agree that the manager recruitments by the club have been absolute disasters. Reflecting the accusation that the club is merely a commercial club not a proper football one. One where major footballing decisions were taken by a man who knows **** all about football. Managers are key and it’s clear that ole did a brilliant job as an interim in steadying the drifting ship but wasn’t suited to be appointed as a permanent or long term manager. The ****er who made that decision is now out and hopefully we will have a more football focussed club. After the debacle of the previous managers, the owners got a manager in Ole who got them what they wanted: top 4.

Has the culture changed or changing? Remains to be seen. Will Ten Haag or Poch be given time or sacked as soon as top 4 is not achieved? Like Rooney said the team is in such a bad place that it would be better not to be in the CL next season. That means the new manager would have more time and space to build.

It’s incredible that the club had meant to learn the lessons from the disastrous period following Busby yet here we are again. Years of drifting following a successful manager.

 

The Glazers have probably never heard of Matt Busby though, nor Woodward. Which says everything about where we are.

We absolutely need to not be in the CL. That doesn't mean we don't try for the rest of the season though.

I don't agree that we shouldn't be in europe at all, I think the Europa league is a decent competition into whch we can blood young players and new players, with a new manger and ethos.

We could even go and win it.

I'm still absolutely staggered that we aren't competing for fourth this season given how clearly ****e Arsenal are and how Spursy Spurs can be. I thought we'd piss it tbh.

Spurs got to be favourites now, if only due to the manager they have.

 

I agree about the Europa being a suitable competition tor blooding youngsters. The CL would bring the money and the glamour but do nothing for confidence and team building if we are not really competing. I think that's what Rooney meant. The way we are going, 6th is the likely place we'll finish behind Spurs and Arsenal . Arsenal's lack of fight and steamrollered by Palace was quite amazing. Spurs played well last weekend but then who knows?. To be behind them shows the depth to which we have sunk.

Talking of players we want to **** off. Pogba apparently got an offer from PG but surprise surprise that is lower than what he's been offered by Utd to get him to stay. Unfortunately that will could mean he's going to stink the dressing room next season.

 

I really hope he leaves. As a free agent he (and the fat pig agent) will get sizeable signing on fees from whatever club he joins which might compensate for the reduced salary - poor thing. He is toxic on the pitch and off it and the sooner he leaves the quicker we can get someone in who wants to play for the shirt rather than idle away the season in between international breaks.

 

Why does he need to be around? His contract will expire in few months.

I saw this gamble by him not working out, especially on the money front. He gets paid well here and he certainly won’t he getting that in Spain given their priorities out there on younger players and the financial situation the two big clubs are in, especially Barca. Juve certainly won’t pay him more than he has been offered here. Which probably makes PSG his best option for money. But they are also overstocked with high earners.

What a fkin greedy idiot!!

And another one… Martial! Apparently it’s not working out in Spain as he imagined it would. 1 goal and 1 assist in nine games and Seville has no intention to buy him. So we may be stuck with him for a while.

That’s a warning for Rashford. These players are part of the problem but they think changing their environment is going to somehow change their ****ty work ethic and attitude.

The next manager must purge this culture!

 

Martial started well but the same old whimpering and poor body language crept back into his game and the fans here just won't stand for it, particularly as he isn't a club player. He was being interviewed on the pitch the other week and coins were being thrown at the plastic screen embossed with the sponsors logos - and it was his own fans.......

 

These players have it so good here. But because of the culture that we have allowed to foster, they have all become sulky with ideas of greener pastures.

 

Erik ten Hag: Man Utd closer to appointing Ajax coach as new boss - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61015509



Are we finally going to build the correct coaching infrastructure?

With those, he (and Rangnick currently) should be backed on who to get rid of, as well as bring in.

 

It looks like Kalvin Phillips may be on his way to OT. What do all think to that?