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Match Day Thread Hull City v Huddersfield Town

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Mar 31, 2022.

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  1. NewcastleTiger

    NewcastleTiger Well-Known Member

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    Our last 2 home squad opponents probably don’t have squads worth more then us by much
     
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  2. Steven Toast

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    Please, don't try and be pithy, you're not that guy.

    I'm saying that any half competent manager could get Forest up to at least the playoffs given the money they've spent on wages and transfers.
     
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  3. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we should have gone for a half competent manager then?
     
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  4. Steven Toast

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    Which manager should we have gone for, that would take this mediocre squad and have them playing football that could get them up the division on a pittance?

    Any name will do.
     
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  5. Tigerite

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    Farke would’ve done ok in my opinion.
     
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  6. Steven Toast

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    Yeah maybe. But again, he had a Norwich side brimming with Championship talent. We don't have that.
     
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  7. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Had 18 shots 6 on target and scored a goal against an excellent Forest side
    We had 6 shots 1 on target
    Why is this so difficult to understand? they had a go and play attractive football
    We don’t
     
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  8. Steven Toast

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    Its not difficult to understand, it’s perfectly simple. You keep using them as an example, so you should be aware of how much more experience they have available to them. They weren’t tied down with an embargo in January, they recruited well in Summer and they spent more than we did. We can’t make up for that with five days of transfer window and a few last minute signings.

    What you’re seeing now, is a result of what came before, not what came in recently. I can’t see him going before the season is over, but if he has a transfer window and starts next season poorly, he’ll be replaced.
     
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  9. thetiger1966

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    Chris Wilder
    Neil Warnock (short term till end of season)
     
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  10. AlRawdah

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    Grant McCann.
     
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  11. Plum

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    Bit academic really, Arveladze was already in the frame when Farke became available, it'd be a pretty ****ty chairman who fired his manager before he'd even bought the club!
     
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  12. thetiger1966

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    As much as I wanted McCann gone City didn’t,t lose 6 home games on the trot under him. Soon as I saw the team sheet for Fridays game I knew we would not win. Playing one striker up top on his own & that striker being Eaves sums Arvaladze up. He won’t even try 3-5-2 a pair Eaves with another striker. If this is the attacking football he said he was going to play then he needs to go back to the drawing board.
     
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  13. Brucebones

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    I agree 100% on why he won’t try anything different, but, he deserves to get the team he wants, if he fails, then he’ll be gone by October at the latest.
    I’m hoping he succeeds & that he’s currently just trying not to lose games by a hammering until we’re safe, then try something, having said that, we’re still not getting the results at home, so not sure, if this is his plan, what the future really holds with Shota in charge.
     
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  14. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Experience ffs we beat them in the league last season ffs
    They’ve kicked on we haven’t
    We have an ex England international on the bench how
    How muchmore experience do you need
     
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  15. PLT

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    We lost no end of home games under McCann. Our home form for the last two championship seasons has been consistently awful regardless of manager. In fact, pretty much every criticism you could level at this team applies to both managers. There's clearly a much more fundamental issue.
     
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  16. thetiger1966

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    Yes, poor managers who can’t get the maximum out of the players they have. If Chris Wilder had come in instead of Arvaldze we would be higher up the table than we are now. Acun made a big mistake by sacking McCann & then appointing his mate rather than the best man currently available as manager.
     
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  17. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    So why didn’t they address it with new signings instead of signings that can’t get in a poor team
     
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  18. Steven Toast

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    We beat most of the league last season, under McCann we lost to Peterborough at home this season so what does that tell you?

    We couldn't "kick on", we were under an embargo and had to sign mostly dross that wasn't good enough and be reliant on young players with very little Championship experience and hope that they very quickly fulfil their potential.

    We have an ex England international on the bench, yep. What's that supposed to do, automatically make everybody amazing? He was brought in as cover in the midfield and as an experienced professional, not a coach, but he's just one guy and like the manager, once the players cross the line it's on them to perform.

    Outside of Huddlestone, we've got Eaves, who after Friday has hardly set an example and spent most of his career in League One, then who? Smallwood, but he's about as much a captain as Captain Crunch is a captain. Honeyman? Coyle? Ingram? It's not enough, we should have been in for an experienced striker in the transfer window to replace Magennis and an experienced centre half to guide our very, very young back line. Sadly, given that we had a few days (and yes, they had targets prior, very few of which wanted to come and the one that would have made a real difference went elsewhere - naivety on the new owner's part)

    We're very naïve and you can see the nerves in how we play. There are silly mistakes all over the pitch, the shape isn't quite there and we have players playing out of position down our right hand side, which is where most teams are targeting us. We've not had Coyle and Emmanuel, our two natural RB/RWBs fit all season and it has made a massive difference. We went after a lad at West Ham in January to cover that position, but we couldn't agree terms. Even then, he's only 20 so would he have been the answer? Probably not.

    The manager isn't the only issue here, what we're seeing is the result of poor leadership on the part of the previous owners. We have a squad of teenagers because our previous owners took out a loan that strangled our chance to get stronger and push on.
     
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  19. balkan tiger

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    Some said we had done very good business in the January transfer window and the one before come to think about it. And as it happens the new signings can't get into the starting 11 even though the same people say our players are not very good, cheap and league 1 standard.
     
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  20. Shark Sports

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    Doubt Farke would've done any better. In his first season he finished 14th with Norwich, and they had a far better squad than we do now.
     
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