3 words... drop dead webber Why help the one guy who refuses to take team orders himself? He doesn't deserve the helping hand if it means getting 2nd place in the WDC. Don't feed the Seb haters who will try and spin the truth, saying that the RB7 was always 10 miles down the road when infact Seb was the best driver of the year by a country mile. Seb should just finish the job on Webber and leave a mark so bloody deep that he'll know his place for 2012 and fall in line for once and keep the fear of dominance against the other top flight drivers like Alonso and Jenson.
It will be even better if Lewis somehow pulls his head out of his arse and gets some decent results and knocks Webber down to 5th.
The Red Bull is much better. Its just Webber has driven very poorly. Hugely overated in 2010 and is being exposed now.
Have you got any evidence he refused to take team orders? He could of easily just of been making a point he was unhappy about them while still submitting to them. I do not think he should obey team orders anyway. The RB7 has easily been the best car this season. Webber 'haters' are really starting to grate on me.
I can't see Vettel moving over for Webber in any situation, and to be honest I can't see Horner/Marko allowing team orders to happen. I think this is PR bullshit from Horner to try and convince the world that Vettel isn't the team favourite. Red Bull are probably hoping that Vettel is out in front with Webber in 3rd/4th - because that way, there wont be any need for team orders. I agree with SilverArrow that Webber doesn't deserve team orders, but I will have a lot of respect for Vettel if he does move over.
The same could be said for Lewis using an obvious challenger but failing to use it properly for 2/3rds of the season. McLaren have so far, 5 wins to Seb's 10, they should of had another 2-3 wins quite easily but losing out on the likes of: Malaysia, Monaco, Monza, Spa, Spain, Australia, Turkey, Korea - because of brain faids or crashing into people or just unable to get past. Lewis alone Monaco: Lewis should of got pole, also messed up second chance by cutting corner, not including the long wait before going out. Would of likely to have got the win. McLarens fault also. Not including the story to forget on race day. Wasted 17-10 points. Monza: Should of won this track with the Mercedes engine he had, but McLaren messed up. Wasted 13 points Spa: Lewis could of pressured Seb/Webber at the end, but instead crashed. Wasted 25-18 points. Australia: Lewis closing down Seb towards the end but broke his floor by going off. Wasted 7 possible points Malaysia: Was more interested trying to get past Seb at the start instead of just going in a straight line that he left the door open for Heidfeld, ruining his race, that's not including the weaving/crash with Alonso giving him a penelty etc. Wasted 21-14 points Canada: Jenson prooved the car was quick enough to win yet Lewis couldn't wait long enough and crashed. Wasted 25-18 points Turkey: Lewis tries too hard trying to get his posistion back from Mark into turn 3 that he buggers it up and gets overtaken by Jenson. He then ruins his tyres fighting with him and Massa. Pit stop **** up by McLaren costs him even more. Wasted 6-3 points Hungary: Was going well for the win, but he spun and then flapped trying to get going again. Different tyre call didn't go so well and went backwards, was very lucky to keep 4th from Webber. Wasted 13-6 points Singapore: Clashing with Massa sealed his fate and should of really been fighting with Jenson the whole way but instead getting sucked in by the midfield at the start. Wasted 8-5 points. Japan: Jenson again prooves that the car is equal to the Red Bull on another favorite track, but Lewis fails to beat Seb to pole and tyre problems screw him over. Should of been fighting with Seb and Alonso. Wasted 15-2 points TOTAL POINTS LOST *By Estimate*: 150-96 This still isn't inluding the qualifying boo boo's that they both did where Seb has rarely put a foot wrong. With this we would still be having a WDC fight on our hands... Hell Lewis might of been leading right now. Silverstone this year. Horner: "Mark maintain the gap" *Mark continues to pressure Seb by riding his arse for 2-3 laps*
But with the car difference. If Vettel has a **** race (aka Germany) He finishes 4th. thanks to the car. For Lewis or Jenson for that matter has a bad race it is 6th (or a DNF) and as your post illustrates the only way to actually beat them would be through sheer perfection which in the real world isn't going to happen. Lets put it this way. If Vettel had been dring the McLaren this year, do you think he'd be leading the championship? My answer is no and thats not to say he hasn't been the best driver this year because he has, but not by 127 points.
I think there could be a lot of truth in this Forza. I didn't completely agree with all that you said, but I largely agree with this - the main thrust of your point.
First Casey Stoner nearly runs over something (Don't remember what animal it was) at Indianapolis and now stray dogs at Buddh. WTF? This is quite worrying as Buddh has nearly 2000 cops guarding the place. Alkatraz, this is not.
We're not getting any coverage of practice from India. The entire feed is blank. Is this just a problem here or did the power go out at the track again?
*** Breaking News: Lewis hamilton gets a three-place grid penalty in Sunday's race for ignoring double waved yellow flags at the end of FP1!! ***
No idea, I'm unable to watch actual coverage of the practices but apparently Perez has the same penalty. Wonder who is going to provoke more of a reaction?
From the BBC live feed *** BREAKING NEWS: LEWIS HAMILTON GETS A THREE-PLACE GRID PENALTY IN SUNDAY'S RACE FOR IGNORING CAUTION FLAGS AT THE END OF FP1 *** EDIT - Also see Sergio Perez receives the same punishment for the same offence.
Quite interesting as a 3 place penalty is lighter than a reprimand for Lewis otherwise he would get a 10 place penalty I believe. I agree with the decision and good on Lewis for accepting it as well.