Match Day Thread Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

**** sake.

It's supposed to be temporary thing based on covid fitness and disrupted calanders.

Why do we need 5 subs next year and not this year.

 

All other top European leagues already have five subs apparently

 

Softies.

 

World record attendance for womens game.

 

We needed it this year as well. It’s def a good thing if it’s now a permanent fixture.

 

Yeah,another step for womens footy.

Our ladies are on the verge of returning to the WSL after spending a couple of seasons in the championship. Its only one up,one down
but they are very close to promotion,this weekend should seal it.

 

Never on TV here... Unless it's the world cup...

I might watch if on TV... Or I might not. . Dunno. Watched the uni games in person in University. Albeit, mostly for the wrong reasons.

 

Why?

If anything it's.more disruptive to the flow of games.

The marginal saving of legs for some balanced out by multiple long winded time wasting subs late on by certain managers.

 

Everton has posted a loss of £121m, so they have to sell Richarlison in the summer.

 

Makes no difference as can still only make the 5 subs over 3 stoppages

 

it would though.

If i'm moruinho or simeone I would say right, 3 subs saved. Lets get those 3 done all at one on 89th min. the game is then over. it will take 3 or 4 minutes for the 4th official to play with the board.

players coming off will wait to see their number as far from the line as possible and half jog/.walk/clap the crowd off then slap hands with the sub and manager etc.

Most of all though imo it kills a games momentum. 5 subs is half a team and it is disruptive. we see it all the time in friendlies.

I can recall 2 subs and some here will clearly recall just 1 sub. when we went to 3 it was seen as disruptive. today we see top managers no willing to make a change at all in some games and maybe just have their favourite 1 sub up front or on the wing they make on 60mins and then save the rest for late on to time waste.

I think we will just see games die off and lose shape more than anything.

 

they actually need to sell early as well so they are going to get absolutely gaped.

thye have posted more than the ffp limit of losses over the 3 years

they posted losses of £13.1m and £111.8m losses before and now with latest one which has the covid losses actually stripped out (its even worse)

the prem rules only allow £105m over three years. they were already over the limit basically and this has pushed them into fines and points deduction territory.

the biggest possible issue for them is a transfer ban. if they have to seel 2 or 3 players and STILL can't bring anyone in then they are toast.

BTW the fans abusing rafa for digne???? the club were only delighted to get 25mil for the lunatic.

 

On your first point. Makes no difference, added time will be put into injury time. Also I don’t really remember it happening loads in the CL or last season but it’s no real difference from someone making a sub in last minute to kill a game off. It’s a tactic used.

second point that it’s disruptive do you think a manager is going to purposefully make 5 subs even if it disrupts their team and makes them play ****? You can’t compare club managers in a league game making subs to try and win a game to international game (where there is rarely any actual tactical chemistry anyway) which is also a friendly and has nothing riding on it.

I’d imagine in most games won’t even see 5 subs used. But it means the option is there for more tactical changes to try and improve performance. It means players can get most rest which allows them to perform at s higher level for longer. It gives younger and fringe players more chance of playing developing talent in the prem rather than only in under 23s.

 

I can remember none.

 

and people rarely got injured right?

 

Boots were different back then...

 

and those itchy sack cloth shirts.

 

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saint on his league debut

 

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as you can see multiple trophies.


its been done.

 

I can't really remember it all that well (I was quite young, surprisingly). I don't think statistics show many teams ending games with 9 or 10 players - they just had to carry on, and I don't recall many players being out for long periods through injury.
There's definitely a cultural element to modern footballers' apparent fragility, but also I'd say that they're pushed to their athletic limits more than in ye olden days.