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Boris reported to the Met

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  1. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    verging on the hypocritical... that comment & certainly not a stay at home.
    MY week ..
    Sunday am family Grandson played football at Keynsham pm 6.6km Walk
    Monday am bit of gardening pm shorter walk 4km to top up wild bird feeders
    Tuesday evening 6.30pm onwards ..with group of mates furthering progress into where no man has been!
    Weds visited bird feeders stalked a deer walk was about 4km
    Thursday 6pm another group of friends furthering exploits into the unknown at a different site
    Friday working in garden from 11am to 1630 with a couple of breaks for tea and bickies 1700 to 1945 evening walk in woodland with a parent of 2 and third child looking for owls [ 2 tawnies ] deer [ 4 roe 1 stag 3 doe's ] badgers [0] Rabbits [loads ] also frightened off about 2 dozen pigeons! and finished the 3.5km jaunt with a fox carrying a poor rabbit ...
    Hey ho just finished my fish and chips .. probably go through the news / watch winterwatch and check the satellites on DUNDEE SAT
     
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    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    Another labour politician jailed today that’s 8 in the past 10 years.
     
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  3. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    PMQ's they are like piranhas around a peice of meat dunked in and out of the Amazon, Starmer, Blackford and the leader of the handful who doesnt rate a name mention in the report! on PMQ's on the BEEB.

    WE HAVE 2 MAJOR CRISES, 3 if you include the hospital baby death's. SO what do they have a beef about ahead of the important things .. happening NOW ... but the unfinished business that escalated a month or so before last christmas. So much hypocrosy .. heading toward equalling Putin and the Russians STATURE!!!!.. A few weeks ago a combined resolve " let us deal with the terrible war Putin has led us into, and get it sorted, and then we can come back to partygate" that has to be almost equal to " we will not attack Kiev or Chernihiv anymore at the present" ...guess what CHERNIHIV in the past 18 hours has seen heavier bombardment than previous 3 weeks ............

    Lets be clear about the countries finances ... WE ARE IN DEEP WATER ... THE £tr we had after the BREXIT EXIT and the TORY massacre of Labour to see us prosper in the next 5 -10 years has cruelly been taken from us with the COVID -19 DEBT, let alone the Putin war that has added some 5 -10% toward the inflation of world economies via fuel and supply costs.

    Labour has never been a .gov that can actually manage an economy. People think Those were the years "Bliar years" WHEN we were in a coincidental partnership of Oil beginning to flow and "another new labour".. a time when £tr's could have built 50 hospitals modified infrastucture built or supported house building etc etc etc .. but what happened .. bit like winning the lottery, and spend spend spend only to get a letter from the bank saying your account is overdrawn ... oooooops better sell one of the RRollers .... THEN down size the yacht, and have 2 less holidays a year ... 5 should be fine .... we all know what happened then sold the family silver [ gold actually ] did a runner ... left poor old Gordon in charge then called in the baliffs as no money no collateral just a slip of paper with a few words written on it.............. NOW they criticise the way forward ..really show us where the tree is hidden or the magic lamp ... or shut the f up!
     
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  4. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    I’ve never heard so much crap in one post. I will ignore most of it because I’m sure you’re on a wind up.

    I will however point out your hypocrisy, It’s really important that we trust our PM tells the truth, an example of someone who doesn’t is Putin. I’m not suggesting Boris is comparable to Putin obviously , I’m just pointing how important it is that we are able to hold our PM to account. Don’t ever think it’s not as important as other obviously pressing issues, it absolutely is THE most important issue ALWAYS.
     
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  5. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    it is not a wind up anything that is serious war, covid debt, babies dying and the economy, of course partygate is serious [ sorry by the way you do not see the seriousness, backed up by your cohort as always ] . the hypocrisy is the point, which you sort of agree to in a way ... but misunderstand how hypocrisy applies to all ...
    when you make a statement as Starmer and his "other opposition leaders " did to wait until the end of the Met inquiry is completed and all fines are issued and to whom and the guilty are. Along with the inquiry along side it has made the final synopsis. Then to ignore that with serious other considerations rearing their heads then it is pure hypocrisy to take an advantage of scoring cheap political points.
    in the 80's we had far worse to contend with than our economy now, but didnt have the benefit of food banks, we didnt moan everyday about price of fuel or mortgages at 15-16% .... a mortgage at 15% is far far worse than the contributing factors leading into our current inflation ... we lived with it ... we got on with it ... we didnt starve, nor did our kids ... we still managed a holiday ... night down the pub .... we got through it...
     
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    Spot on -today it is expected on a plate.
     
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  7. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    I lived through the 80’s too, & my parents used to say the same things about then, saying we had it easy compared to during and after the 2nd world war, it’s a generational thing, you are both just showing your age. Referring back to days gone by is irrelevant.
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Boris stood in the house and repeatedly stated there were no parties, and no Rules were broken . That’s fact and on record. The Met have now issued fixed penalty notices to individuals, again fact.
     
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  9. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Are you really worried about parties-half the population was breaking the rules.

    Snowflakes and the lefties are jumping on this-Did you see Starmer having drinks but the people not jumping all over that in lockdown.

    Much more important things to worry about in the world.
     
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  10. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely I’m worried about the integrity of our PM, It’s at the heart of a Democratic society, regardless of the political persuasion of the ruling Party. Without it there is anarchy.
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    It gives us the moral high ground to criticise dictators like Putin, without it we are no better than him.
     
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    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    Ashtonred articulated my thoughts exactly a few posts earlier:
    'It’s really important that we trust our PM tells the truth, an example of someone who doesn’t is Putin. I’m not suggesting Boris is comparable to Putin obviously , I’m just pointing how important it is that we are able to hold our PM to account. Don’t ever think it’s not as important as other obviously pressing issues, it absolutely is THE most important issue ALWAYS'.

    The big issue isn't about the actual ACT of having a few drinks with friends/colleagues. Taken in isolation the physical ACT IS trivial, but those people who dismiss the whole Partygate as being a waste of time and effort when there are much more pressing things going on in the world are missing (or ignoring) the point.

    The point is that our Prime Minister has publicly and shamelessly LIED to parliament, the press and the public on multiple occasions about him DELIBERATELY and CONCIOUSLY flaunting a law that the rest of the population is held to account for abiding by.
    The fact that he clearly thought that the lockdown rules that HE introduced don't apply to him is bad enough, but to then stand up several times in parliament and deny it is unacceptable.
    It paints a very dangerous picture of the type of man he is. He has shown that he is prepared to fob parliament off with any old crap just to protect his own skin. It makes one question whether ANYTHING he has said to parliament is true, whether ANYTHING he has said on his election campaign is true or basically ANYTHING he actually SAYS is true.
    What next? the drink-drive rules don't apply to him? He gets caught drunk behind the wheel of a car, denies it many times whilst being brought to court - and his supporters dismiss his actions and lies because the Ukraine war and Covid are more important? The war and Covid are arguably more important than a single rape or a single murder - it's the same argument.
    Throwing crimes committed by Labour MPs into the argument is a weak defence - the reason they are weak is because the Labour Party is NOT in power. Their MPs are not making up rules for anyone. Yes, they deserve punishment, but they are not the government so the effect of their misdemeanours are nowhere near as significant.
    We have a lying Prime Minister. That's worrying.
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Excellently put, my feelings exactly, it defies logic that anyone can stick up for Boris. It’s worrying. Power corrupts and NO PM should be able to get away with what he’s done. It’s not about which party he leads, it’s a much bigger principle.
     
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    Boris is shameless and a liar.
    Blair was arguably worse.

    It's sad, but do we get what we deserve ?
     
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    There all in it for themselves all of them-there all at it-tell us one thing and do something completely different.
    Look at Patel allowing THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF ILLEGALS IN across the water.
    Something she promised the voters would stop,
     
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    What a shower we have suffered from with our politicians, Blair an outright liar, Brown caught out on his microphone cursing the woman, Cameron a coward when he lost the EU vote, May trying to sell a false deal on EU trade., Corbyn proven marxist and friend of Russia, Boris partygoer and ambitous liar, what are we left with .....STARMER can't even answer wether a woman has a penus or not, proven remainer, a supporter of lockdowns and masks, Sturgeon, Drayford , Davey, Blackford, Raynor...........

    God help us and all the UK.
     
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    You do understand the word illegal don’t you? You can only do something about them when you catch them.
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Goodness you are a jolly soul aren’t you, I bet you’re a bundle of laughs <laugh><laugh>:bandit:
     
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    you are pretty much on the same page with this comment, the act was " the deed/s in question" but as I said, " at this moment in time " it is not the time to start using important minutes of time in parliament when there are more pressing needs to try and gain political point scoring.[ parliament works to a time table, like PMQ'S get 30-35 mins ].
    When a case about anything from murder/robbery/ rape / etc is investigated you can have an opinion " they are guilty" because you have some of the facts .. only at the conclusion are you right or wrong. Whether Boris is guilty or not has yet to be decided, what he has said so far is pretty inclusive, although for some ....... who do not know for sure, but will be cock a hoop if they are proved right, will have 2 courses of action if not! they will be the usual disbelievers of justice or they become clams and disolve into the background. My stance has always been ..... those parties, gatherings were not unique throughout the early [ first 9 months ] I would see loads of "parties" every week as you pass by the recycling boxes of bottles/cans and plastic wrappers etc from Iceland /supermarkets / of "party foods" and some of my walks took me past houses at 8-9-10pm... with "parties going on" barbie lit ... etc ... I didnt nor did the 15 -20 or so houses close to mine ... but at least 10 parties were observed on the 2 streets at either end of ours ....
    I await the real verdict, not the hoped for verdict that come from the usual one side of an argument ........ I stand by what is right, not just for me but for the country [ world] as a whole.
     
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    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    this part of your reply/comment is currently your interpretation and purely your take on the situation ... if you go back over PMQ's you can find his comments, and they are not pointed in either direction .. they are guarded and can be close to the truth. Take into consideration everything going on at the time he would be pretty much in the hands of his advisors ...

    Democracy is based on truth, but go back over the past 20 years and you will see in .gov or build ups to events [elections ] that is rarely the case ... often you have to assess your interpretation of what you believe
     
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