Walker? Got tapped up during the season, which completely ****ed us. Didn't get taken over by a mafioso ****house who's best mates with a dictator, thankfully. Nice to hear your lot singing about the bloke supplying the Russian army, though.
I'm sure we'd have preferred to sell him to someone else, but we weren't left with much choice. The comparison is facile, frankly.
All on the day of the match You are trying to avoid the point because you know you are crying about nothing. If that one player dropped their squad below the minimum requirement then the postponement was valid regardless of how many players they had previously sold or loaned out.
They knew the situation that their squad was in and chose to reduce their numbers. That's on them. I wouldn't expect a Man Utd fan to criticise underhand behaviour, though.
Would they have been able to meet the squad requirements without the infected player at the time of his illness?
And presumably Xhaka is counted as not available because of suspension. But surely a team should not be able to benefit from a suspension?
They didn't, they had a game postponed (still had to play it) because a covid case made it impossible for them to pick the right amount of squad players.
We played on a Wednesday (Burnley) and then on the following Saturday lunchtime (leeds) just last month. Arteta is is acting like a whiney child on this issue and as per usual the sporting media are too incompetent to point out to a manager that they are chatting ****e. Everything else is smoke and mirrors
It would apply to the accusation in the first place, but considering how long the scandal went on for and Perugia’s president admitting 80% of matches in Italy were/are fixed, it is very hard for me to believe Conte had no knowledge of what was going on. https://www.goal.com/en/news/723/se...why-antonio-conte-is-being-tried-for-sporting It wasn’t just one case. There were a host of reasons that meant we didn’t meet the criteria for player availability. Leicester, Newcastle and Burnley were getting lots of postponements approved. We didn’t break any rules and clearly had a valid enough argument to postpone the match. Even now, some of your fans are trying to suggest that by delaying the NLD that has somehow given us this massive benefit and led to us being in pole position for 4th. If you follow the same line of thinking, I’d suggest you look at your own team’s results against the likes of Wolves, Southampton and Burnley, rather than the postponement of one match. Yep. But it’s not. And with all the shady characters and sponsorships that’s been allowed in the league, I’m not sure what the point is of making this a moral issue now. The Premier League set this precedent years ago and now nearly every Premier League club is somewhat responsible for the misfortunes and exploitation of others. What exactly is it you’re trying to get prove with this? Nothing is going to materially change now. Since you’re not willing to let this go, need I remind you it wasn’t so long ago you were sponsored by Hewlett-Packard, who have been complicit in the illegal occupation of Palestine and provide data centres/hardware to Israeli police and military? They’ve even been involved in projects related to checkpoints and control of the Palestinians in occupied territories. https://whoprofits.org/updates/hewlett-packard-hp-and-the-israeli-occupation/ https://bdsmovement.net/boycott-hp Like I said. Neither of us have a leg to stand on.
Does handing £37m to Putin's mate for Juan Mata make Man Utd complicit in Ukrainian atrocities? Live by the dumb argument, die by the dumb argument
BrunelGunner "Yep. But it’s not. And with all the shady characters and sponsorships that’s been allowed in the league, I’m not sure what the point is of making this a moral issue now. The Premier League set this precedent years ago and now every Premier League club is somewhat responsible for the misfortunes and exploitation of others. What exactly is it you’re trying to get prove with this? Nothing is going to materially change at this point." Moral issues are moral issues time should not be a part of it should it? Because the background of the PL is purely money based with little concern for real moral issues, which just reflects the UK that has been built over the last 40 years it does not mean you should just throw in the towel and accept any or all of the ravenous decisions individual clubs make.
From your own link: "Carobbio's credibility has been repeatedly questioned, while it was also pointed out that not one other Siena player implicated Conte in the fix." Quoting Luciano Gaucci is odd, to say the least, as he was a complete fraud. He was personally involved in match fixing too, so it's a very self-serving statement. The man's a bent nutcase that most notably signed Gaddafi's son, who was on drugs. It was just one case. How many do you think it was? You had other absentees, a number of which were down to your own choice. That's on you. Our own results are irrelevant. We're not the only team that you're up against. You seem to be suggesting that this is a new stance from me. It's not. I've been consistent about it for years if not decades. ****ty companies are one thing. Dictatorships and mafioso crooks are another. Selling computer products to Israel isn't remotely comparable to being a dictator. Sorry. The guy quoted as an expert on this has his own section about antisemitism accusations on Wiki, by the way. Hardly surprising, given his opinions on Ayatollah Khomeini, 9/11, Gaddafi and the Boston marathon bombing.
PNP, this is going to be my final post on this because we're just going round in circles here. Be that as it may, it doesn't change the fact that match-fixing and gambling within Italian football has been going on for ages. You can track it back to the 1960s if you want. So whilst it may have been a self-serving statement, he's not entirely wrong. Conte may not have directly been involved in match-fixing scandals, but during his period of time as a player/coach in Italy, and during Calciopoli, it's extremely difficult to believe he had no knowledge of relevance to what was happening. If you think that the dodgy Italian authorities clearing him is good enough to prove his innocence, that's your prerogative. But I don't. I don't understand what you don't get about this. Whatever the reasons were, the fact remains we did not have enough first-team players available to field for a Premier League match. The Premier League agreed with us and took the decision to delay the match until further notice. I agree that your own results are irrelevant. But you should tell that to your other supporters who seem to think it's given us some distinct advantage when it hasn't. Especially as it means a backlog of fixtures later on in the season. And you've got previous history of assisting ****ty companies and corrupt governments. The underlying tone of your posts suggests to me that Chelsea, Man United, Man City, Liverpool and Arsenal all have bent owners/sponsorships (or have benefited from such), whereas Spurs are clean as a whistle. If that's what you think, then you're wrong. First of all, no-one is comparing anything. Dictatorships are bad, as are companies who directly aid the oppression and subjugation of others. Secondly, I don't know what guy you're on about, but there are plenty of references and articles of HP's involvement in the illegal occupation. 'Selling computer products' is another mischaracterisation of what they're doing over there and glosses over their active involvement with racist institutions like the Israeli military and police force. If you want to make excuses for them, that's up to you. But don't pretend like you've not had extremely dodgy organisations/institutions involved with your club.
Well remembered, he will always be Burnley in my mind, they were a decent team in the early 60s and I remember my dad taking me to the games with great anticipation
