WAR! What is it good for?

Gordon the Gopher was PM for a couple of years too wasn't he?

 

Abe - God bless him, and much as I love him - doesn’t read books ffs.

 

Read a book ffs. Perhaps start with the Ladybird Book of Thatcher’s Britain, you might learn something about how our country got to the state it’s in now, where workers are sacked on the spot by zoom.

 

Treble is the new Abe, we just have to accept this now.

seriously though, abe’s thoughts on this war would be fascinating

 

Probably wouldn’t be any more deranged and ill-informed than most tbh.

 

He’s a conspiracy theorist so I highly doubt that

 

Remember reading Naomi Klein's No Logo years ago, about how the big corps had Politicians and bankers in their back pockets, allowing then to circumvent all sorts of trade, workers rights and environmental policies. I can't remember when that book came out but it's got to be 20 years ago

Seems we've learned nothing since, and it's just got worse. With, as you point out our own Govt allowing the City to act as a hub for dirty cash and unscrupulous business to thrive.

Was listening to a prog on radio 4 the other day about how shell companies have been set up on the LSE, with their HQ based in places like Bermuda, Turks islands etc away from the prying eyes of the Taxman. And used as funnels to rinse dirty cash from Russia. With seemingly ZERO checks along the way.

The whole thing stinks.

 

Maybe you ought to read the ladybird book on Engineering - start with the page that says, when you build tunnels, you don't need Ferries.

 

from what has been reported the ferries will continue they just intended to sack the erxisting workforce and employ foreign workforce on lesser terms .

PS you forgot James Callaghan in your list of Labour PM's

 

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Yeah but under the previous government workers weren't going to work.

 

He was more of a puppet dictator tbh.

 

I didn't forget any PM's, but thanks to you and potato head for passing the test.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_governments

The problems stem back to 90's from the opening of the tunnel, I know that will come as a shock to some people...

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/english-channel-tunnel-opens

Along with a company of headhunters being based in Dubai keeping them afloat ever since.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DP_World
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Ahmed_bin_Sulayem

I'm fully aware of what the company intend on doing regarding agency, I'm glad to see someone is awake, but companies have been doing this for decades, so again nothing new.

In fact I think the staff at P&O Ferries should consider themselves lucky, because plenty of people have lost their jobs over the last decades, with no enhanced redundancy package, and with no hopes of another job. As it happens they can take the money and run, straight into another job, I'd call that a win myself.

Most of them will be long term employees I expect, It's March, so take the money and six months off work and enjoy the summer, come September, get another job, there will be plenty of farmers looking for labour hands then.

Obviously people can boycott P&O Ferries, but that would be like asking a Newcastle fan to go and support Sunderland, no one cares about the right and wrongs (Saudi's) when it comes down to personal gain.

Should be enough ^^ there to keep you all busy.

 

That's all very well mate but what does it have to do with Harold Wilson?

Asking for a friend

 

They still used cash back then. I notice more and more companies are moving to cashless. Yet people on one hand think it makes their lives easier, then on the other complain about the power of the banks.

 

Dunno, I used to love watching his B&W films on BBC2 when I was a kid.

 

I was listening to Patrick Alley on there and the freeby contracts doled out to countries' leaders and government officials for mining of natural resources, then sold on for billions. The money those leaders make are then transferred to offshore accounts. The contracts sold on for billions. Guinea and Myanmar were two examples.

Where we come in is in cleaning that money and that requires the banks and lawyers with means to do it, which the City of London is awash with. I've only pulled at one thread of the complex ball of string this ties in with. Including property and courting politicians and how this is all part of gaining legitimacy and respectability. The comparison with the mafia is very apt.

 

Can't see anything shocking there tbh, what's the point in being in charge if you can't do a little bit of graft while you're there? And, being honest, the British Empire was built on piracy and drug dealing, a bit of money laundering pales by comparison.

 

I don't think we can blame Wilson for that mate

I agree about the cashless society. It's also the fact it's part of a wider system we're all be driven down to control and monitor every aspect of our lives. From how you earn and spend your money, to your national forms of ID, to where and what you shop for, to where you're driving to and from, to your children, to what your personal interests are. It stinks.

 

I like the sarcasm Ern, but when the government of Guinea passes off a mining contract worth over £2.5billion for free on a backhander which amounts to twice the country's national budget for health I doubt it pales much for the folk living there.