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Off Topic War with Russia? - War and Nato discussion

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  1. Fox Mulder

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    Putin is psychopath.

    It takes a psychopath to order this type of action... I mean is absolutely awful.
     
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    I was honestly asking the question out of interest. I wasn’t being provocative!
     
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    The state of some of the comments on here trying to justify what Vlad has done <laugh>
     
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  4. Fox Mulder

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    I don't for Hitler.. The 14 and 15 year olds that got blown up on both sides I do.

    Seriously mate they're men doing their job and are trained to follow orders.. Ours are no different
     
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    There are large gaps in the lines, plus I suspect air drops around the border.
     
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  6. Fox Mulder

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    Oh lol I apologise mate <laugh>
     
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  7. Prince Isak (GG)

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    I don’t want none of this bullshit war crimes stuff either. He gets found whether is insurgence or a ****ing bomb or a sniper I don’t care.

    Be needs to be dead. The actions he (not Russia) has instructed need the severest of punishments.

    It would not surprise me if the Russian people react and retaliate. I can’t believe they believe in what he has done is right.
     
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  8. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Oh yeah. Eichmann didn’t mean to personally shoot hundreds of Jewish women and children in the head… he was just told to do it… oh my…

    and with that statement mate, I know you have zero argument.

    Ps Hitler was Austrian.
     
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  9. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Eichmann was worse than Hitler
     
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  10. Prince Isak (GG)

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    That’s ok. It’s a passionate subject and tensions are high.

    But yes I was just wondering why you felt sorry for the Russian soldiers because I also do in a way. They are being ordered to do things they may themselves not want to do.

    I mean some do. That Tank driver was just bang out of order running over the old man’s car.

    The Soldiers are at fault by proxy. They probably joined the military but not for this purpose.
     
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  11. Rum & Black for 2

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    I accept it’s not an action which the Russian people have decided to take. I also wouldn’t limit the decision to be solely Putin’s but rather Putin and his close cronies. Simply getting rid of Putin I doubt would solve the issue as I would expect a close crony would step into the shoes of the “martyr” Putin.

    It is also why any UN force should only enter Ukraine (if Ukraine agree) and not go into Russia itself.

    And we should hit Russia with economic sanctions at the same time. Not limited sanctions but every sanction in the book.

    Unfortunately, the Russian people will suffer in some ways but to redress the situation that is inevitable and I’d rather it was the innocent Russian people than the innocent Ukrainian people.
     
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  12. Fox Mulder

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    The nationality is irrelevant I don't wish for military to be killed.

    War crimes are not the same

    It's sick of you to say that mate
     
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  13. Rum & Black for 2

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    There is a time and place to look at the bigger picture and I wholeheartedly agree that it’s a very imperfect World that we live in and the West are not innocents in it.

    But, for me, that time is not now, not when innocent Ukrainian citizens are being killed by Russian forces invading their country. Let’s sort that issue first and then look at the bigger picture and the future.
     
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  14. Fox Mulder

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    Exactly and ours soldiers are trained to do the same. I don't think you'll find jj hoping ours are killed in the numerous countries they are deployed in.
     
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  15. Prince Isak (GG)

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    I reckon if you take Putin out of the equation it changes the dimensions and mechanics of the situation.

    Your right he will have people by his side but it takes a special type of ****ed up person to do what he has done.
     
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  16. Fox Mulder

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    I agree, but unfortunately it's the bigger picture we're looking at in this issue.

    There's nothing you or I can do anyway, so why bury our opinions on the sand.
     
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  17. Prince Isak (GG)

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    That’s exactly what I was thinking. They can’t say no as that in itself is would probably mean their own death anyways.

    God the more I think about this the more I want someone and I don’t care who to kill Putin. That person regardless of whether they themselves is killed would go down in history as a hero in my opinion.
     
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  18. Fox Mulder

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    They're just people that need money and chose the military. They now rely on that income to feed their families with and those families might not see them ever again.


    We're all slaves to the wage.
     
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  19. Prince Isak (GG)

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    I watched a video yesterday of a chap (Ukrainian) who was saying bye to his daughter who was getting onto a bus to go to safety..

    He wasn’t a soldier but just a man.

    That didn’t sit well with me. Two weeks ago he was probably pushing her on a swing and now he may never see her again.

    Because of one man’s greed and insanity this poor blokes life has changed in an unimaginable way.

    It’s close to home for me that.
     
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  20. Fox Mulder

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    I've never seen this kind of thing, but it's been happening all over the world all our lives.

    I hope a resolution is met, but I'm convinced that Russia won't stop even after they've toppled Ukraine.
     
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