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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. StJabbo1

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    Johnson, Truss and Co. I have absolutely and genuinely have no trust whatsoever in them to do anything but line the pockets of their crooked cronies
     
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    Meanwhile Canadian politicians have voted 185-151 to maintain a state of emergency indefinitely.

    Shame on Trudeau & every single politician that voted yes.
     
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    If I have it right, a lot of Putin’s aggression is because he doesn’t want Ukraine to join NATO, yet his actions will surely have other countries, bordering Russia, thinking “will he be coming for us next?”
    Is there a potential for this to backfire on Putin, with those other countries deciding to protect themselves by joining NATO en masse?
     
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    Potentially causing more issues with the Putin-led Russia ……. :emoticon-0104-surpr
     
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    I wonder if UK/US sanctions on Russian interests will result in leaks and revelations about Russian intervention in elections and more?
     
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    Or maybe the removal of Putin
     
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    Yes. And there's a potential that it backfires on Putin if he actually goes ahead with invading Ukraine fully. It's a high risk strategy. I think he's just pushing the envelope to see how much he can get away with here. It's testing the West's weak points.
     
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    Perhaps just kind of like the Crimea situation

    I have definitely heard some level headed commentators suggesting what you have - that a full on invasion could very much backfire
     
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    He said in his speech that he is only interested in these two separatist areas, as they all consider themselves to still be a part of Russia anyway.

    However the Russian foreign minister has just said that they don’t recognise Ukraine’s sovereignty.

    So it would appear that it could just be the beginning, and that they will take over Ukraine in it’s entirety.
     
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    Wow, he has gone in strong there and directly addressed a lot of issues head on… I assume Boris will just shrug this attack off though.

    For those interested (and/or bored) this is a very good discussion about human rights, authoritarianism and how bitcoin is slowly separating money from state and can be used to incentivise freedom over control. It does a good job of expressing the ideas I’ve been trying to talk about on here and why I think they are important:

     
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    Didn’t the Canadians talk about freezing or blocking crypto wallets as part of the crackdown? If that is possible then I’m not sure how separation works effectively beyond people somehow dealing P2P on this. That requires far more buy in and would surely require the currency to be, you know, stable
     
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    I posted regarding the class action brought by Ottawa residents which, I think, covers the crypto wallets. This one result from a search on the freeze. How effective it is will be seen over the next days/weeks depending on any further demos and how they're handled/organised.
    https://www.coindesk.com/policy/202...s-canadian-freedom-convoy-crypto-fundraising/
     
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    Huge move by Germany:
     
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    How much money does this cost Russia ?

    And doesn’t this screw up Germany’s energy situation since they (foolishly) abandoned nuclear power ?
     
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    First, Germany (correctly) abandoned nuclear power after Fukushima, which everyone else should have done. Secondly, Russia exported $US55 billion worth of gas in 2021, double the previous year. Nord Stream 2 would have probably doubled this again, and as this pipe doesn't go through Ukraine, it means that they wouldn't get the $2 billion a year transit fees. Your point is a fair one, though, as not just Germany but the whole of Western Europe has become far too dependent on Russian gas, just as we are in danger of becoming too dependent on Chinese nuclear technology.
     
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