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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. Tobes

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    I literally provided you with the actual words of the man you’re saying was let down by Starmer, saying completely the converse. He’s reiterated the same message since Johnson’s comment in the House. This’ll be the same Johnson who called for the end of reviewing historic sex abuse cases, as it was “spaffing money up the wall”.

    Yet here you are still trying to maintain that you’re right about what happened, when the man himself says the complete opposite. Incredible.
     
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  2. Tobes

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    Yeah the truth.

     
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  3. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    YOU DO KNOW THIS IS A FAKE ACCOUNT, READ SOME OF THE OTHER REPLIES, YOU DID THIS ON PURPOSE, BUT LAST TIME YOU WERE ON HERE YOU WENT WITH YOUR TAIL BETWEEN YOUR LEGS PUBLISHING LIES, AGAIN SURPRISED YOU HAVEN'T LEARNT YOUR LESSON BY NOW, BUT THIS SEEMS QUITE NORMAL IN FAR LEFT SUPPORTING CIRCLES


    2 POSTS DOWN FROM THE ONE YOU QUOTE

    nazir afzal@nazirafzal·50m“Self-righteous dogmas” such as not being racist, misogynist, homophobic or all round bigot
    Your right to free speech means you can say what you like
    However, it doesn’t mean there are no other consequences,inc legal ones
    Freedom also means that we don’t have to listen to bull**

    a highly educated man using words like cos and bullshit yea right
     
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  4. Tobes

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    It’s not a fake account, it’s a blue tick verified account. So that’s a complete fail.

    I can post him giving a TV or radio interview saying exactly the same thing if you want to pretend this is fake to try and save face lol. Alternatively you could just admit you’ve fallen for lies.
     
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  5. Makemstine Roger

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    Revealed: NO police officers will be disciplined after FOUR year probe into how GMP failed Rochdale grooming victims

    The force probe into the affair has taken FOUR years to publish. It covered botched criminal investigations in 2008 and 2010.

    Seven officers were served with misconduct notices after GMP was ordered by the Independent Police Complaints Commission to carry out an inquiry into the force’s inability to protect under-age girls from predominantly Asian gangs who used them for sex.

    The seven were interviewed about their decision-making, handling of investigations, and victim care.

    They were the former divisional Chief Supt, John O’Hare, a Superintendent, plus two Det Chief Inspectors, two Detective Inspectors, and one Sergeant.

    All received management advice regarding their performance.


    One Detective Inspector was found to have a case to answer for misconduct but retired before the inquiry could be completed.

    By the summer of 2013 force investigators had identified the Det Insp should attend a formal misconduct hearing but they left the force in January 2014.

    The report says he failed to produce any meaningful strategy to support a colleague, called ‘Officer 9’

    He chose not to properly update or alert his supervision or any member of the Rochdale Division leadership team about the scale of the abuse.

    The reason he gave for this - that they had a large workload - was deemed unacceptable.

    ‘Officer 9’, a detective, was deemed to have warranted misconduct proceedings but the report says he was ‘overwhelmed’ by the task before him.
    It says he ‘worked extremely hard to secure evidence, make arrests, and place compelling evidence before specially trained CPS lawyers’.

    But he was not sufficiently supported by his line management who he approached for help.

    The report adds that when help was not forthcoming he ‘persevered in an attempt to prosecute known offenders and disrupt others.’

    It was therefore decided it was ‘inappropriate to punish someone who acted in good faith’.

    Eventually evidence he had gathered in 2008 and 2009 was used in a proper well resourced investigation two years later which ended with a trial in May 2012 and the convictions of ten men.

    The report says the force failed the victims as the force was focusing on a government driven policy to tackle burglary, robbery, and car crime.

    The ‘churn’ of staff at Rochdale police particularly in the inspecting ranks meant leadership of the issue was not maintained.

    There was also a lack of understanding of the complexity surrounding child sexual exploitation by all agencies.

    The report was delayed after twice being sent back to the force by the IPCC. The first time the IPCC said the contents were not adequate, and in 2012 they had an issue with the ‘style and tone’ of it.

    It was finally ready to publish the summer of 2014 but Rochdale council raised concerns about the possibility that some of he victims could be identified from the report.

    Finally, a heavily redacted version has been published today.

    The report reveals that into total 13 officers were interviewed but only seven served with misconduct

    'Report is clearest admission yet from GMP that they failed vulnerable young girls'
    A watchdog and and MP has slammed GMP for its failure to investigate the case properly at the first attempt.

    But GMP insist lessons have been learned and improvements made in the force’s culture regarding child protection.

    Rochdale MP, Simon Danczuk said: “I’m very disappointed it’s taken so long for this report to come out. It’s been re-written nine times and the offences it refers to date back to 2008. That’s seven years ago and my worry is that some of the offenders that slipped through the net at the time may be still at large abusing children.

    “What we’ve learned today is that the police were more interested in investigating the victim rather than the crime and this is completely unacceptable. Today’s report is the clearest admission yet from Greater Manchester Police that they failed vulnerable young girls and yet not one senior officer has been disciplined. Actions like these do not send out a good message and suggest that the impact of these crimes is still not yet properly understood.
     
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  6. Makemstine Roger

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    ok post it saying those words, could do with a laugh of you trying to find ****, as im still waiting for your proof from last time, but this still doesn't retract from the fact and truth that the report that Stamer hid for nearly a year was used by him to successfully prosecute and win the case , when in starmers view it was not winnable and this is the guy you want to lead the country,<laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  7. milkyboy

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    Dodgy camera angle… you can’t see kier starmer out of shot, pointing a shotgun at his head.

     
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  9. Brizzlewhite

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    I'm not a fan of Starmer - the CPS stuffed up under his watch - but this stuff is incorrect as it was the GMP as per your article and Rotherham Council who copped the flak. I'm also not making assumptions.

    Starmer WAS NOT IN CHARGE OF THE ROTHERHAM GROOMING INVESTIGATIONS BY THE CPS - it was Nazir Afzal predecessor as the lead CPS for NW England (one of 14 regional CPS heads). As DPP and head of the entire CPS, Starmer didn't have the time to run every case in the country.

    LORD ROTHERHAM WAS NOT PART OF THE ROTHERHAM GROOMING INVESTIGATION - he came to attention in 2017 for inappropriate conduct with women, which led to 1971 and 1974 complaints resurfacing. That's what he was convicted for. None of the reports name him. If you think there's suppressed evidence, then please provide a link or links to this.

    THE REPORT SUPPRESSED FOR A YEAR WAS THE 2018 WANLESS & WITTAN HOME OFFICE REPORT. It was Sajid Javid who was accused of suppressing it as per the link that we've both posted. Reports on Rotherham were issued in 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2014 (the Jay report).

    The 2014 Jay report led to the NCA investigations, the IPCC review and a load of resignations (some forced by Theresa May) and was the report which made all the papers. The trials spanned 2010 (before Afzal arrived) to 2019.
     
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  10. Brizzlewhite

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    On that note, I think I'll agree to disagree and talk about some other bollox instead.
     
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  11. OLOF

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    The whole establishment are complicit in the rape and abuse of thousands of young underage girls for decades, right from the top down to local councils, social workers and the filth and that ****er Starmer is as guilty as the rest, all for the sake of their diversity. every one should be held accountable.

    I see the royal nonce is paying off a girl he's never met so he doesn't have to go to court and explain how he never met her and was best pals with Epstein
     
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  12. xbpod

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    It was always going to happen, he doesn't go to court and have to answer questions, she gets her second pay day after saying she wants her day in court and it's not about the money.
     
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  13. blonogasoven

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    All we've been hearing about is Russia invading Ukraine. The Russians say they don't intend to but American Intelligence (if they've got any) said they'd be ready to invade by today.
    Russia have withdrawn troops from the border area.
    The Ukrainian President has played down the threat.
    According to a Russian reporter the media there is more interested in the 15 year old at the Olympics.
    Biden was elected on a promise of less conflict but his government are inciting Russia.
    Who else thinks this is a crisis out of nothing?

    I'm going to guess who will, the ones who get their news from the MSM and only research enough to confirm what they've been told is right. They're called Sheeple.
     
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  14. blonogasoven

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    Apparently, only from what I heard this morning, the $12m goes to her charity.
     
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  15. OLOF

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    Her expenses will be to only pay for a few bus fares and chicken nuggets from McDonald's though :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  16. OLOF

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    Nice bit of bait there Blono, im sure he'll be along later.:smiley-finger007:
    If you told him water was wet he'd scour the tinterweb to try prove you wrong:p
     
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  17. OLOF

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    BREAKING NEWS...
    Huge queues are gathering at Buckingham Palace after the news that Prince Andrew is giving away money to people he's never met.
     
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  18. xbpod

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    I heard a law firm in USA said it's being split 3 ways. Her legal fees, to her direct and to her personal charity. However it's done I doubt she will end up out of pocket.
     
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    Especially if she uses Pelosi's lawyer
     
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