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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. Left on the Shelf

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    The latter never had a plan, cunning or otherwise!
     
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  2. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    You should have chucked Tom Robinson in there...
     
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    One's a berk who posts nonsense conspiracy theories about Jeremy Corbyn on Twitter, the other's Steven Yaxley Lennon using a fake name
     
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    If anything summed up this Tory cabal ..
     
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    "Conservative".

    Is it just me or are there rather a lot of foreign-born Tory MPs?
    Bodger, Morrissey, Hands and Ellwood from the US alone.
    Zahawi, Kawcynski and Alok Sharma spring to mind, also.
    Seems a bit strange when they're pretending to be ultranationalists.
     
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    So you saw the Canadians blockading Ottawa and thought it would be a good idea to do the same in Paris, did you?
     
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    "My battery is dead"? And now your window's dead, too.
     
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    Great news! Sources have managed to get a copy of the Questionnaire..
    IMG_20220213_163431.jpg
     
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    The UK Defence Secretary cuts his holiday short to visit Moscow. He then draws parallels with Munich c1939 managing to offend most Western allies.

    However, as some have pointed out, why the **** did he think it appropriate to go on a family holiday with the world on the brink of WW3!

     
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    When I was working in the region a couple of decades ago, 98% of Turkeys wealth was held by 2% of the country - or translated into 3 families, who between them owned all the largest domestic media, utilities, engineering and manufacturing.
    UK has just followed that lead...
     
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    He didn't really say Munich 1939 did he?

    (Munich conference was actually in 1938. Hope there are no parallels. During that conference it was decided to give up the Sudetenland in the interests of peace. Is this the conference where Ukraine gets to give up the Donbas?)
     
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    No, not directly, but he was referring to that period. My mistake not to state 'c1938' rather than '39.
     
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    Funny how that wasn't his position a little over two years ago...
     
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    It's almost as if he's saying the least politically damaging thing, isn't it?
    You know, like someone that would like to get elected at some point.

    We're not rejoining the EU at any point in the foreseeable future without a massive public swing in opinion.
    The so-called Red Wall are staunchly against it and winning back their votes is important.
    Failing to give a strong response on that question was one of Corbyn's major mistakes.
    He wanted to leave but not with the Tories in charge and he failed to even get that across.
     
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    Met Police commander who wrote drug strategy faces dismissal for taking cannabis, LSD and magic mushrooms! <laugh>
    Well you can't say that he hasn't done his homework.
     
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    He's the brother of the guitarist in The Vibrators.
     
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    Okay, so how is giving half the electorate reason to not trust him the least politically damaging thing to say?

    This is the issue with the mindset of "Let the Tories own Jonestown" - okay, so they've ****ed the country up and are in denial about it, and those who will vote Tory from beyond the grave if they could will aid their denial by pointing at the imaginary squadron of dinghies off Dover while ignoring the massive tailback parked outside Dover that would be visible if Patel and Farage didn't keep standing in the way telling them to look for the imaginary dinghies...and they're not owning it, as demonstrated by Rees Mogg's bollocks from a couple of weeks ago claiming the Jonestown dividend is actually paying the NHS that magical £350m a week that doesn't exist

    Allowing this ****show to carry on and not saying a word against it, that's politically damaging because not only does that send floating voters towards the Lib Dems since they are opposing the whole ****show while Starmer continues to sit on the fence - and this is the issue with trying to win back the Red Wall voters, this only serves to alienate voters in London and the rest of the south

    On the subject of the Red Wall, the issue there is just how well they've been gaslit for the past twelve years, for example a line you consistently hear from them is "Our Labour MP did nothing for us, so I voted Tory" - which is not only the most lunkheaded defence there is because the Tories have been in charge for over a decade, but considering how in that decade+ the Tories have habitually slashed the budgets of Labour councils while keeping funding for Tory councils nicely topped up before pointing the finger saying how little Labour councils are spending (oh, we've heard that a lot in Croydon, whose budgets were slashed by at least 70% even before the whole Jo Negrini/Brick By Brick scandal cleared out what was left), so if Starmer wanted to appeal to Red Wall voters all he'd realistically need to do is show them a graph of council funding between 2010 and 2022 for whichever Red Wall seat they're campaigning in compared to Tumbridge Wells long with a slogan along the lines of "This is what the Tories have done for you"

    The fact that the Lib Dems have made a dent where it matters, namely at the polling booth for both by elections and council elections while Labour under Starmer have consistently flattered to deceive underlines the failure of trying to avoid touching on any subject that is deemed "politically damaging" - if you play it safe, how do you appeal to voters? At best that leaves Labour's main strategy being "Isn't it time we had a go?" which doesn't exactly inspire...anything, actually
     
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