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Science - It's life Jim but not as we know it...

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  1. PINKIE

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    Anyway, getting back to this.

    It's conceivable that there could be all kinds of stages of evolution of intelligent species happening all over the universe, some that are in the early stages of consciousness, some that have evolved into multi dimensional inter stellar travellers ?

    I think the basic premise is that life as we know it on Earth, is just one drop in the ocean of all kinds of permutations of the concept of intelligent life.
     
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    I think humans tend to think of themselves as something more than what we really are, in the grand scale of things we are as insignificant as an ant reaching the top of it's anthill.

    We are prehistoric in the terms of development and nowt more than the size of a grain of stand. It's like observing the whole of our universe or going to Mars, we are not doing that, the equipment and robots that we build are.

    Humans are merely an organic material that operates the electronics, as humans themselves die as soon as we lack water or oxygen and when we get too close to heat and gases.

    I believe we will find a mirror image of everything as we travel through the universe, the only thing we establish is at what stage of the evolution process are our discoveries, like looking back in time, or maybe even the future dependent on what occurences happened, much like a meteor that changes life form direction on impact.

    We have no say in evolution, other than spreading seeds, ie humans inhabiting other planets or the destruction of species.
     
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    I got a vegan evolution question.

    If the entire human population eradicated meat from thier diet completely tomorrow.

    In a few thousand years would people all have green jizz?

    How many generations until we look like peas?
     
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    I think humans going vegan is bonkers, clearly people have never watched wildlife videos, where lions, wild dogs and hyenas think nothing of eating their prey alive - none of those animals would think twice of eating us alive, if they were hungry and we were unable to protect ourselves.

    The food chain, balance is kept going by nature, the more you are the prey, the more you breed in numbers. However, being at the top of the food chain, we do need to treat nature with more respect, but saying we shouldn't eat meat is like telling a monkey to stick to eating bananas, when in reality they will eat one another if needs must.
     
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    As individual biological beings, dependent on water, oxygen and carbon based fuel (as food) for the survival of our bodies, and the relatively short (although time is subjective) lifespan of a human life in the context of the massive expanse of the universe. It can look as though we are insignificant.

    But I think we should embrace what we are and the majesty of our existence. Frame it in whatever cultural or religious context you want, but the fact that we even exist and have the consciousness to realise that we exist is pretty staggering when you think about it.

    Our species are thinkers and explorers, we are always striving to progress, even if we don't always get it right. And I think that's something to celebrate.
     
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    We've evolved to a point though where eating meat is a choice for our species.

    We could quite easily survive on a plant based diet.

    And of course many people have, and already do
     
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    So you think we'll develop actual colly flour ears or like seaweed pubes or lime skin or summin?

    Say like 100,000 years of no meat in humankinds diet from now?
     
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    The problem is with a lot of people, they've never actually ever seen what wild animals do - all they've ever seen is humans feeding animals in zoo's or wildlife parks. When in the wild they will pull an animal down and eat it while it's still conscious, it can be ages before the prey dies. The only problem with humans is we don't have anything these days to control our population numbers, so the slaughtering we do becomes excessive. Thankfully I won't be alive when all these nut jobs rule the world into becoming vegan. I don't believe people as a whole have a clue of how many products will disappear due to the use of animal by-products, albeit manufacturers are adapting.
     
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    Ok in one human life time we've seen that eating no meat can be perfectly healthy, cool.

    But I'm talking everyone, all bloodlines, for generations and generations, we don't know what that would do right?
     
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    We breed animals for food, so the consumption of meat is relative to the amount of animals we rear for slaughter.

    We've become completely separated from our natural place in the cycle of life though, we've artificially engineered the production of meat to suit a massive population that is outstripping our natural resources. We're doing the same with wildlife habitat, and most of our natural resources like oil, gas etc

    We're on a course to push our own species to extinction by the way we over consume.
     
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    You like most humans, think you are something more than you really are, superior in the grand scale of things, we are not. We die like every other organism. As for god, what's he going to do, bring me back as a recarnation or lead me to some great kingdom of peace. Behave, we die and rot in the ground for the bugs and other organisms to feed off us, end of story. The funniest part is no one can ever come back to tell you, I was right. Humans seem to think they are some grandiose product of nature, that will go on to some other life after this, yeah right.
     
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    As long as they take their vitamin supplements and iron tablets <ok>
     
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    Human extinction, what's the problem with that, are you scared of dying? We are a leech on the Earth, sucking the life out of it, nature would be doing everything else in life a favour by getting rid of us, afterall it survived for billions of years before us.
     
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    So what you reckon on my question then?
     
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    There's a lot of good evidence that rearing animals on pasture is good for the soil. In that it helps to keep soil and all of the microbiome life healthy, it captures carbon and it produces soil that becomes nutrient rich, thereby enabling all of the bugs and invertabrae etc to provide for the food chain, birds, frogs, foxes, mammals etc

    So I'm all for rearing animals for slaughter to eat as meat. Meat also has a lot of benefits for human health.

    It's just the way we produce and consume it that is the problem.
     
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    Anyway, I'm going now, let us know when you get the green jizz sucky, good scientific experiment you are running there for the human race. :cheesy:
     
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    Not really, we all die. But as a species, engineering our own extinction because we can't adapt, would be a pretty lame way to go out.
     
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    Why you politikin me bro just answer da question innit<laugh>
     
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    I think you are right, we have no idea what it will do to future generations.
     
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    Bro don't be scared off by my deep and epic question of evolutiononic scales.

    These times are are times when I have good weed and are to be rejoiced really
     
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