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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    Best you’ve ever had I’ve heard
     
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  2. The Exile II

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    And whatever your politics, the buck should stop at the same place regardless of whether you support the individual or not. Accountability should be completely objective. If Johnson is responsible as head of one organisation, so should Starmer be as the head of another.

    If you want to apply different rules for different people then you're part of the problem.
     
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  3. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    So tell me what you know about PACE police and criminal evidence then you can tell me what he was doing wrong. Interested to hear your perspective.
     
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    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    So a Tory hating leftie refuses to read the evidence in front of him ,and keeps spouting the same ****e of Boris must go he attended party's, but so do did starmer but we have to keep quiet about that, However starmer buried the Rochdale grooming gangs prosecution of which he was in charge,and even had DNA evidence, only for Nazir Afzal to reopen the case with the same evidence,almost a year later. also finding that the disgraced Labour peer Lord Ahmed of Rochdale would be implicated so buried the case. we now find it was reopened on the same evidence Stamer rejected and has resulted in a five and a half year prison sentence, Anyone reading the deranged mumblings of the author above can see that he is either mentally challenged or has mental issues, any sane person reading about Starmers favouritism only has to look at he Savile case as he was head of the department of course it was his orders not to prosecute. otherwise he couldn't climb the ladder



    In 2011, Nazir Afzal, who was then the chief prosecutor in the North West, reopened the case. The evidence previously deemed ‘insufficient’ by Starmer’s CPS — evidence which included DNA and eventually led to 47 other victims allegations — proved vital to securing the convictions of ten men.

    Stamer was too bothered about his career and people calling him racist to worry about a few Northern girls even when presented with the facts

    he even apologised for it
    Andrew Norfolk
    Wednesday October 24 2012, 1.01am, The Times
    We failed grooming victims, law chief Keir Starmer admits
    A generation of girls was betrayed by the justice system’s flawed approach to sexual exploitation, England’s chief prosecutor has admitted.
    Keir Starmer
    , QC, the Director of Public Prosecutions, said that men who groomed teenagers for sex had escaped justice for decades because police, prosecutors and the failure of the court system


    BUT IT WAS HIS FAILURE WHILST LOOKING OUT FOR HIS MATE, ALL THE EVIDENCE IS THERE JUST READ IT
     
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  5. The Exile II

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    I don't need to. I've got a former head of the CPS on my side. He set out his case pretty well - if the organization fails, the person at the top should go.
     
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  6. Pure River Slut

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  7. Nozs’ Hat

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    Alexander de Pefeffel should quit, he’s an embarrassment to the country. Little Etonian rich boys taking the country for mugs, none more so than those who try and excuse their piss taking behaviour.
     
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  8. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    Let’s be honest the more far right slurs he perpetuates the more the pack of Yaxley Lennon fans on here lap it up.
     
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  10. The Exile II

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    @Pure River Slut

    I'm literally entirely on Starmer's side here. He's spot on. I am 100% in his corner on this. Why are you disagreeing with the Labour leader, you some kind of ultra right wing proud boy Trump loving Rogan listening neo Nazi?
     
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    I agree with that bit.
     
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  12. Pure River Slut

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    You know I am #uncovered
     
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  13. The Exile II

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    I accept your surrender.
     
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    The second part was aimed at other politicians etc, wasn’t trying to stir it up on here as I know there are two very polar opposites in opinions and don’t want to get into all that lark.
     
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  15. rooch 3

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    I don’t believe there are two polar opposite’s there is one who wants all mp’s tarred with the same brush and there is another who only wants the Tory party tarred with the same brush<ok>
     
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  16. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    problem i see is that Boris has a lot to answer for however there is one particular rabid far left supporter who keeps baying for blood and has serious reading problems by failing to understand basic English so ill have one more try

    the idiot writes So you know nowt about the subject. Are you ignoring Nazir Afzal for any reason ? The man who prosecuted the Rochdale *****philes with the help of Starmers cps? Or does that not get a mention in your far right echo chamber. If you check the facts out it out you will find he had no help from Starmer and his team was replaced by his own team as Starmers could not be trusted

    Starmers head of cp dropped the Rotherham grooming case for nearly a year, for 2 reasons 1. his friend Labour peer Lord Ahmed was involved 2. He didn't want to be thought of as racist for bringing a bunch of only Pakistanis to trial, so he discredited the girls testimony even thought there was DNA evidence

    Tom Watson criticised over role in bungled VIP abuse ...
    https://www.theguardian.com › politics › oct › tom-wat...


    4 Oct 2019 — Intervention by Labour deputy leader left police officers 'in state of panic', says report.

    Lord Ahmed: Former peer guilty of child sex offences - BBChttps://www.bbc.co.uk › news › uk-england-south-york...
    5 Jan 2022 — Lord Ahmed of Rotherham is convicted of assaulting a young boy and a girl's attempted rape.


    One brave police woman left the force to fight the injustice the girls got so much so Detective constable Maggie Olive she kept up the pressure until Kier Starmer was pushed aside and Nazir Afzal was appointed he took the evidence Stammer had rejected along with the dna and prosecuted successfully




    Sir Keir accepted Alison Levitt’s conclusions and apologised for the CPS’ “shortcomings” in the Savile case. He left the CPS in November 2013, and was elected as a Labour MP at the 2015 general election.
    In 2009, when Keir Starmer was Director of Public Prosecutions - the most senior figure in the Crown Prosecution Service - a decision was taken not to prosecute Jimmy Savile.
    Savile was the subject of four complaints in 2007-8 alleging child sexual abuse. He was interviewed under caution by police in October 2009.Whilst Kier Starmer headed the public prosecutions it was his decision to proceed or not.

    Police officer who was being investigated as part of probe into Rotherham child sex scandal has died after he was hit by a car as he crossed the street
    • PC Hassan Ali has died a week after he was knocked down in Sheffield
    • South Yorkshire Police say his death is not treated as suspicious
    • PC was on 'restricted duties' over four allegations linked to Rotherham
    • One abuse victim had complained that he twice asked her on dates
    • His 'devastated' force has today paid tribute to the 'well-liked' police officer
    • Tampering with evidence was also rife in the case


    Detective Constable Maggie Oliver resigned from GMP claiming that the force had failed the victims of the Rochdale sex grooming scandal.

    She had been central to the investigation and persuaded vulnerable and reluctant girls to give evidence against the *****philes who had sexually abused them for years.

    But one of the victims she convinced to speak ended up being portrayed as a member of the grooming gang in the subsequent trial.

    Maggie felt betrayed, ashamed and resigned. She became a vocal critic of how police had handled the case.

    She resigned in disgust at the treatment of one the girls who was originally portrayed as a ‘madam’ who had introduced the men to a string of vulnerable girls for a finder’s fee of £10.

    The girl was having sex with some of the men herself - sometimes one after the other.
     
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  17. Pure River Slut

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    Or who think this Tory party, those in power are inept, discriminatory, disrespectful and corrupt. I wasn’t this mad about May - austerity was disgraceful admittedly under the other elitists before. I’m generally a green supporter these days because they seem more honest and level headed about stuff and the ranty lefties of Corbynism were annoying but I do think Starmer is very strong in many ways and plays a straight bat and deserves more respect then he’s just been given. It seems a big chunk of Tories agree. And Johnson stooping to things started on far right telegram pages by Mark Collett and other actual fascists as another power grab is beyond the pale
     
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    yet the rabid leftie is on here every day with his vile rants to anyone that will listen and twists facts even when presented with them...green my arse are you
     
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    But I’m not disagreeing with any of that so why are you telling me?
     
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    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    because your the only one listening as he pretends to have me on ignore but is quick to respond on his favorite thread, except when right wingers (that's anyone who doesn't agree with him) is active
     
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