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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Wes, Feb 1, 2022.

  1. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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  2. Kipper

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    what the **** hahahahhaha
     
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  3. Chip

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    But we are in a perpetual cycle. We cannot start and finish a season in the way we would hope. As horrible as it was it worked and kept us on the gravy train for years. I would rather that than what we have now. We were not competing in the prem and at present we are not competing in L1.

    It's irrelevant which league we are in the cycle is the same. We cannot complete a season without having to make changes. Start weak make change end strong. Start strong turn to **** don't make change fail in ambition for promotion.

    We have changed from proactive action to remain in Premier league to not making the change or dilly dallying over the change so it is too late for any change to have the desired effect.

    LJ should have gone before Christmas he had plenty of chances and repeatedly had these blips that were detrimental to us achieving the promotion we need.

    A new manager appointed in December would have been able to come in look at the squad and bring in who he wanted in January. The scenario we have is absolutely terrible. So much for this wonderful project it has proved itself to be amateurish at best when it is unable to take action appropriately and we find ourselves in the **** like this.
     
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  4. You've presented some excellent posts this morning marra,along with @Disco down under ,arguing for a more patient,balanced approach to our current situation....credit to you.
    I must admit,after yesterday, I woke up this morning looking for blood.....you've made me consider things a bit more.
     
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  5. Billy Batts

    Billy Batts Well-Known Member

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    But ended up bringing lads back that were on loan just to field a squad. The bench was absolutely rancid.
     
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  6. John Wick

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    I see Peterboroughs owner is having his say on Keane aswell. Saying we should bin off Keane and get McCann. It's like we're supposed to be lower leauge, giving up and coming managers a chance and loaning young players from the leauge above. Very very small time mentality.
     
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  7. Southern A

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    I understand your point. But a chairman who has managed to get promotion out of this league several times with a club that should be nowhere near the championship, suggesting we should appoint the manager who won League One last season, is nowhere near as outrageous as many Sunderland fans would like to think.
     
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  8. Oldsandy

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    ?
     
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  9. Wibble

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    Speakman must be running his data on an Acorn Electron
     
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  10. King Kareoke

    King Kareoke Well-Known Member

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    Again a well argued case - however I do understand the frustration

    My concerns are that we have a huge infrastructure cost for this division - eg laying a new pitch, a high spend academy, a top flight stadium. If the crowds fall which if we continue to stay in this division then how do we fund this. I am probably a boring accountant but the funding will be an issue. I do understand it takes time but however you look at it there has been some royal balls ups in the last few weeks which are having a catastrophic effect. I was enjoying this season, two daughters got heavily involved and enjoyed coming along, and now my balloon is deflating at a fair rate of knots. I am trying to keep the faith however
     
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  11. Notaskyboy

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    At this moment it’s not a bad shout, it’s a disgrace though.
     
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  12. SAFC Wilks

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    FWIW, Keane may not be the best option long term.

    However he’s the overwhelming choice from the fan base and if it’s true that Speakman is the obstacle in the way then he’s on a hiding to nothing if it isn’t Keane.

    I genuinely fear for Speakman if this goes tits up…
     
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  13. Notaskyboy

    Notaskyboy Well-Known Member

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    This, I like many have been totally taken in by the arseholes.
     
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  14. Billy Batts

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    "ownership group" two words that make you shudder, in any line of business. Bearing fruit right now.
     
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  15. The Norton Cat

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    But the point of the set up is that changing Head Coach when its required doesn't disrupt the rest of the club like it did previously. Therefore, ending the cycle. Proactive change was carried out; Johnson was sacked. That's what a lot of people wanted. The only problem has been the delay in appointing a new Head Coach, and that has been thrown in to confusion by the club's flirtation with a big name, over a man who fits the profile. All this stuff with failure in the transfer market has nothing to do with the way the club is organised- its just the problems and vagaries of the transfer window and could have impacted on us whether we had a manager, a DoF, or any other method of buying players.
     
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  16. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    No mate I was just being creative about employing a very old man twice retired from football as manager of club using data led approaches. He probably can’t even send a photograph by text. (I think that’s Steve Bruce actually )
     
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  17. BackO'TheNet

    BackO'TheNet Well-Known Member

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    Everything I've read on this thread upsets me...

    Each and every one of you has vented your hearts.

    Not one of you are wrong.....

    Why? ...because everyone's opinion is as good as everyone else's....right?

    We f*uckin love this Footbal Club so much...it hurts.

    Ha'way KLD.......please show us some leadreship......please!

    .....we love SAFC.........SAFC is the blood in our hearts !!
     
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  18. Chip

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    I would argue since the sacking of LJ its got a whole lot worse, they should have kept him in post until it was ironed out behind the scenes and a replacement was ready waiting in the wings. Mistakes have been made here, they acted too late (should have been out before Christmas) and they didn't prepare to bring a seamless replacement in, now we have a scenario where backroom staff and the DOF are being openly criticised and that could and should have been avoided.
     
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  19. SAFC2403

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    Think the daft kernt has given up and is now playing Grannies Garden instead!
     
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  20. Chip

    Chip Well-Known Member

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    Loved Grannies Garden, it was brilliant.
     
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