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Police investigate Terry incident

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    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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  2. West London Willy

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    It's sadly indicative of the way that Chelsea utterly imploded on Sunday.

    You get a penalty given against you early doors, go one down after 10 minutes, and then, when it looks like you'll go two down courtesy of an 'old boy', you end up down to ten men. That's bad enough, but to counter this, the young manager takes off the one player who, on form, is most likely to get you back into the game....

    Leaving the journeyman plodder, who, increasingly frustrated at the indiscipline around him and the lack of service he's getting, goes in two-footed on the oppositions most 'talismatic' player, and has to go.

    Second half, the team are angry. At the referee for perceived injustices, at the crowd for daring to be vocal, at themselves. And despite the skill they produced, they couldn't find a way back into the game and more and more petty niggles boiled over into bookable offences.

    The normal niceties of the game are completely forgotten, leading the team captain (who isn't normally known for his tact and diplomacy) racially abusing opposition players, and at the end of the game, having to walk off down the tunnel alongside their vanquishers, words are exchanged and trouble threatens to kick off yet again.

    And the sad thing is - we've seen it all before with them, when things don't go their way.

    World-beaters? Potential champions? European force?

    You're having a laugh.....
     
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  3. Northolt-QPR

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    EXCLUSIVE: I'll clear my name! Terry vows to fight racist claims as police probe clash

    By Neil Ashton and Matt Lawton
    Last updated at 8:26 AM on 25th October 2011

    John Terry has vowed to clear his name after he was accused of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand.

    The England and Chelsea captain is preparing to fight his corner after internet and social networking users appeared to launch a smear campaign against him.

    The defender is also prepared to walk into the FA and state his case if necessary after becoming increasingly angry with the allegations, which surfaced after his club’s 1-0 loss at QPR.


    Flashpoint: Anton Ferdinand and John Terry squared up during game but the Chelsea captain has strongly denied accusations of making racist comments



    Police have said they are investigating the allegations after a complaint from a member of the public.

    But, speaking exclusively to Sportsmail, he said: ‘I’ll do whatever it takes to clear my name and I don’t have anything to hide. I’m not taking that level of abuse.

    ‘Anton and I spoke for 10 minutes in the dressing room after the game and there is no issue between us. It’s finished.’

    Terry asked Ferdinand for an explanation after he believed the QPR defender had accused him of racism.

    Around 10 players, including Chelsea left back Ashley Cole, were present during Terry’s dressing-room talk with Ferdinand. It is understood that it finished with the players high-fiving each other and embracing.

    Terry’s legal team are expected to take a witness statement from team-mate Ashley Cole as he prepares to mount a potential defence.

    And sources told Sportsmail that Ferdinand is giving serious consideration to making a formal complaint against Terry, although the former Sunderland defender was understood to want to sleep on the decision before a specially arranged meeting at QPR’s Harlington training ground.


    Making his point: Terry argues with Chris Foy after he awarded QPR a penalty

    Ferdinand will be joined by manager Neil Warnock and an adviser at the meeting.

    A Scotland Yard spokesman said on Monday night: 'We can confirm police
    have been notified of an incident on Sunday, October 23 involving alleged racial abuse. This is currently being assessed by officers from Hammersmith and Fulham.'

    Although Terry is protesting his innocence, it did not stop the internet rumours engulfing the 30-year-old. Scores of amateur lip-readers have posted the flashpoint on YouTube, adding speech bubbles and the offending words during the clash.

    But Terry is furious at allegations suggesting he called the QPR defender a ‘black ****,’ during the stormy match at Loftus Road.

    Although he does not deny using those words, he insists they have been taken out of context after he was convinced Ferdinand accused him of a racist remark.

    Instead Terry spoke to the 26-year-old in the dressing room to say the full version was: ‘Oi, Anton, do you think I called you a black ****?’


    Another run-in: Terry argues with Tommy Smith later in the match at Loftus Road


    Head to head: Terry also squared up to QPR goalkeeper Paddy Kenny

    PFA representative Bobby Barnes spoke to QPR players who were close to the incident. He is expected to make his representations to the PFA, but chief executive Gordon Taylor is coming under growing pressure to intervene.

    Sportsmail also understands the FA are reluctant to act unless an official complaint arrives from QPR with any evidence. The governing body are awaiting the outcome of the club’s meeting with Ferdinand before deciding whether they will need to act.

    Terry made a point, in his statement denying the allegations, of referring to the racial diversity of Chelsea’s squad and the incident was discussed extensively among certain players at the club’s Cobham training ground.


    Big turnout: Terry denies he was due to attend the opening of Reptile Kingdom in Surbiton

    Some of them were still talking about it as Andre Villas-Boas tried to put the 1-0 defeat behind them.

    Terry did not train with the first team after being given the option by the Chelsea chief to work in the gym.

    The fall-out from the defeat continued among other players as John Mikel Obi and Didier Drogba had another heated discussion. Drogba, sent off for a bad tackle, motioned to Mikel to ‘be quiet’ as he left the field. Mikel repeated the gesture as the pair clashed again.


    Lots to handle: Terry has the big task of rallying his team before the visit of Arsenal

    Terry has also denied that he was due to attend the opening of the Reptile Kingdom pet shop in Surbiton on Monday.

    He insisted he had never been available because it was the first day of half-term and he had a chance to be with his children.

    He said in a statement: ‘I had not agreed to attend the opening of this or any other shop today. I had been asked if I would consider the opportunity and declined on two separate occasions.’







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  4. Ninj

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    there's no place in football for racism - let's hope that the police are allowed to deal with these and the other incident involving Liverpool and Manure and be very open with the outcome. Although I have seen the video clip, and have in my mind, a clear picture of what was said, it does appear that maybe something else was said before hand. And as much as think that terry is everything a footballer shouldn't be, I would like to see this investigated fully. Just wonder whether I will get selected for jury service IF it goes to court. (I would be the unbiased one sitting in my QPR shirt!!)
     
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  5. Northolt-QPR

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    Captain John has to go



    The modern day footballer: flash cars, fancy bars, taking drugs, refusing to take part in a game, having affairs, earning stupendous amounts of money and…. racism. The list goes on, but I’ll stop before I make our ‘beautiful game’ sound even worse.

    Yesterday, Queens Park Rangers grabbed a 1-0 win against a Chelsea side with nine-men throughout most of the game. It was a fiery affair, not surprising seeing as both clubs have history and are big London rivals. The game sparked an Internet frenzy as John Terry supposedly racially abused QPR’s central defender, Anton Ferdinand.

    John Terry has since denied the allegations and Queens Park Rangers have declined to comment on the situation.

    John Terry said: “I’m disappointed that people have leapt to the wrong conclusions about the context of what I was seen to be saying to Anton Ferdinand.

    ‘I thought Anton was accusing me of using a racist slur against him. I responded aggressively, saying that I never used that term. I would never say such a thing and I’m saddened that people would think so. I have known Anton for a long time and spoke to him about it after the game and there was no problem between us. I congratulated him on their win. He has not accused me of any wrongful remark.

    ‘It was clear it was all a misunderstanding at the time.After the result today I am saddened to be dealing with these wrongful allegations. I am the proud captain of one of the most internationally diverse teams in the Premier League and I absolutely believe that there is no place for racism in sport and indeed in any walk of life.”

    Seemingly, the matter is now closed and it is just one big misunderstanding. What’s your point then? You may ask.

    When the news broke, nobody thought John Terry wasn’t potentially guilty. This is a man who is captain of the England national side, captain of one of the biggest clubs in world football and meant to be a supposed role model and decent ambassador for the game in general. Obviously we all know what John Terry has been involved in and all the negative press he’s received. Most of it is entirely justifiable and, sadly, true.

    Call me old fashioned, but surely if news like this was circulating, as England captain and an experienced professional, it should be easy to rubbish the rumours and assume it’s been misinterpreted. It’s been proved that it was false now, but the reaction of many people was unsurprisingly doubtless that he’s capable of something like that.

    The man is a disgrace and although he’s a world-class defender (you could argue he isn’t as good as he once was, especially in the pace department) his attitude and general behaviour stinks. Yes, we’ll clear him of this ‘case’, but the fact he’s even involved in such a story highlights another horrible string in his bow – why even get involved in the first place?


    Yesterday versus QPR

    I’m all for passion, commitment and leading from the front. John Terry is a great example of this but when it comes to on-the-field bullying, John takes the biscuit. Bullying may be a strong word to use, but essentially, this is what it is. Surrounding the referee, demanding a decision to be changed (most recently, the two red cards from the QPR v Chelsea game) and hurling abuse at him until he gets his own way. The man has no class, and no tact.

    Nobody, other than Chelsea fans, understandably, likes the bloke. How can this man be captain of our national side? This brings me to my final point – strip him of the captaincy and make an example of him. England have to build for the future and the game doesn’t need anymore negative press. Make an example of one of the main culprits over the years, bring through the youth and, at the same time, send a strong message out to any other young professionals in this country – if you behave like this, you’ll end up isolating yourself and ultimately, tainting your career.

    John Terry is great central defender, but, a horrible man. I think I speak for the majority of football fans in the country when I say this – or do I?

    By David Smith – Port Vale fan

    Rating: 4.8/10 (5 votes cast)

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    "Terry denies he was due to attend the opening of Reptile Kingdom in Surbiton"


    <rofl>

    you cudent make it up!
    every day is Groundhhog Day at the moment..
     
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    Has it? Not to my knowledge....
     
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    Not yet, though I think it'll go no further.
     
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  9. Chappaz

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    Considering that you were barely able to beat a Chelsea team with 9 men, I certainly don't think they 'imploded'. In fact, they put in a commendable effort which mean that they almost equalised on numerous occasions despite having two fewer players on the pitch.
     
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    when he says imploded i think he means the fact they went down to 9 men
     
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    This will be swept under the rug the FA need this like a hole in the head, Terry is a disgrace and deserves a good kicking from all genuine fans,most of the abuse he received was brought on by himself.
     
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    Chappaz, re your comment: Considering that you were barely able to beat a Chelsea team with 9 men, I certainly don't think they 'imploded'. In fact, they put in a commendable effort which mean that they almost equalised on numerous occasions despite having two fewer players on the pitch. " Chelsea did very well secnd half but only had one clear cut chance that anelka headed into Paddy Kenny's arms. For a side full of international players, there was a huge lack of respect shown to the referee and rules of the game in general, and finally, QPR were only barely able to beat a Chelsea team with 9 men...for a side like QPR 3 points is three points whether you win 1 nil or 10 nil. I admit, I would have preferred to see more goals scored, but if you had offered me this result on Sunday morning I would have taken it.

    For the Chelsea fans to accuse the ref of cheating and bias, I am still waiting for a response that I asked regarding the first dismissal. I asked what IF SWP was defending and Boswinga was attacking and that the same challenge occured where the defending player brought down the attacker, and had the nearest centre half some considerable distance away, wouldn't they expect a red cad for the defender....not one answer yet. Bottom line, Chelsea seriously underestimated what this particlar match means to the players and fans of QPR and only their own stupidity stopped them from getting a result.
     
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    I have no qualms with the accusations about foul play and racism. I think it's just worth respecting that despite having two fewer players on the pitch, they still put up one heck of a fight and could have equalised. Holding your own like that despite a massive disadvantage is no mean feat.
     
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  14. GroveRanger

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    I doubt this is going to go anywhere. Agree that it will fizzle out and AT won't bother to make it official. If he does then Terry is going to say he was surrounded by black players at the time, the ref heard nothing and all it is based on is a shot of the side of his face and even if he was seen to mouth the alleged words it was out of context. Still, his team lost and we are going to enjoy the wind up for ages.
     
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    all quiet?
     
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    All of their problems were of their own making - and due to the FA charges that have been levied against them (not to mention the ongoing police investigation onto JT's comments) it's not finished.

    Despite your good performance in the 2nd half, I think that 'Imploded' is a fair description.
     
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    Chelsea manager: John Terry can't be racist - he's England captain<laugh>
    Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas has backed his under-fire captain John Terry after it was claimed he racially abused QPR's Anton Ferdinand.

    Defending his captain, the Stamford Bridge boss said the club fully backs Terry, noting that he is a 'player of great responsibility'.

    Andres Villas-Boas has backed John Terry over the racism row (PA)

    'I find it strange when people don't trust the words of a representative from your country,' he added.

    Terry has categorically denied abusing Ferdinand during a bad-tempered west London derby on Sunday, which saw Jose Bosingwa and Didier Drogba sent off in the first half.

    Villas-Boas also revealed that Terry and Ferdinand cleared the air in the Chelsea dressing room after the game.

    'For us, it was end of story and it still is. It's just a misunderstanding and something blown out of all proportion,' he explained.
     
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    Strange to understand we don't believe anything Terry says.Yeah right,like of course i haven't been sleeping with your wife! Never told a porky in his life,Villas-Boas is as big a dick as Terry.
     
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    wonder what Villas-Boas will say when terry tries it on with his mrs................................
     
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    Seems like the FA are investigating now. I assume this means QPR have lodged the complaint against Terry.
    Statement from FA:-
    The FA can confirm it has received a complaint relating to an alleged incident of racist abuse in the QPR versus Chelsea fixture at Loftus Road on 23 October 2011.
    The FA will now begin to make enquiries into this matter.
    The FA takes seriously any allegations of discrimination and abuse of this type.
    No further comment will be issued at this time
     
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