I never worked in criminal cases of DV but did work in family law cases where children were removed from the custody of their parents due to cases,or threats/allegations, of DV. Can't speak for this situation but a) the "she's making it up" - I'm not saying anyone is claiming that btw- are so rare (I probably only ever dealt with 20 or so DV cases and they were all clearly true), by the time someone reports its usually been going on for ages b) I suspect she'd have been financially better off by not reporting it The lads going to have to give a lot of convincing answers...
I am sure I read somewhere a few years ago that the police and CPS were changing their approach though. I think they almost never used to prosecute without a cooperating victim, but made a decision that they would prosecute even without cooperation if they felt the evidence was compelling. I could have the wrong end of the stick though.
And if you want more evidence of what a disgusting sphere social media is have a look at all the people defending him with suggestions of we haven't heard the whole audio. If someone says we need proof its Mason Greenwoods voice I would agree but what ever happened in that audio before that point will never justify her saying no I don't want it and then whoever it may be getting aggressive and trying to force her into it.
No I think you're correct about that. It's been over a decade since I worked in law but certainly over half the victims I ever worked with later either retracted their allegations or "reconciled" with the abuser later on. They weren't lying about the abuse (the evidence was undeniable) but through fear/love/financial reliance they changed their minds. Sadly, in many of the cases I worked with it resulted in them losing custody of their children as the court (rightly) were not willing to allow the children back into a household with proven allegations.
Theyll use it was a bit of role play defence or something like that. I’m not saying some people aren’t into that, but that did not sound like that at all, and she is openly stating it wasn’t. People will question why it’s been recorded, but if it’s a pattern of behaviour she was probably just catching it so she had actual evidence rather than one superstar footballers word against hers.
If it is all above board and true shes actually pretty brave because she will be aware exactly what is going to happen as a result. Her whole life will get torn apart trying to mount him a defence.
My bet at this point is that she forgives him, stays with him and we see them on gmtv and loose women holding hands and talking about the help he's been getting.
Didn't think about that possibility to be fair. I do agree it doesn't sound it like it to be fair from personal experience there's still a bit of softness in the voice when putting it on for role play where as this just sounded venomous and hateful
I don't think that's a defence anymore. There was the case of the guy who 'accidentally' strangled his partner a couple of years ago and his defence was that it was consensual rough sex with strangulation. There was evidence that both he and his partner were actively into bdsm but the courts decided that consent was not a defence against doing harm in law.
Case of RvBrown from 1992(ish). General idea was that anything that left lasting damage isn't something you can consent to, the law has been inconsistent though (like a home made tattoo being found to not be criminal). But my knowledge post 2009 on this area is scant...
This is why I don’t understand she hasn’t just gone to the police and kept it all quiet for it to be sorted properly. I can’t defend him if this is what he has done. But why go straight to social media unless you have another agenda? How do we know he has caused the bruises? How do we know he bust her lip? Either way it’s not good news for him.
When you use phrases like "I don't care what you want, spread your legs or get what's coming" its kind of an admission that he's done it previously like
Apparently she went to the police in November and didn't feel she was taken seriously. Also 'apparently' the club has known about it since November as well as the police. Domestic violence is a difficult one to judge people on from the victim's perspective. External logic will always ask why they went back, why they didn't leave, why they didn't report it. However, the emotional and mental side of abuse cannot be underestimated. Despite it looking like their are obvious ways out, people can feel trapped and unable to leave. They have zero self confidence and self worth, having been affected and brainwashed by the mental torture and abuse. People may see an exit and way out and it would be harsh to judge them for it, even if it doesn't look like the best option to others.
There was an audio recording. I haven't listened to it myself as the words on the post were enough to make you sick to the stomach without listening. Apparently it is pretty damning though.
Wow I hadn’t realised that to be honest. I’ve only really read what’s been posted on here. But he’s in serious trouble then isn’t he. Unless of course the recording is out of context I.e role play etc. I don’t know.
