There are estimated to be nearly one million New Zealanders living abroad who have little prospect of getting home because, to do so, they have to enter a lottery for one of a small number of hotel quarantine rooms, with only a 12 per cent chance of being successful.
A mate of mine ‘lives’ in New Zealand. He was unfortunate to be back visiting when all the lockdowns happened and hasn’t been able to get back home since. All his stuff still over there. Luckily been taken in by someone and being kept safe.
That depends upon antibody cross reactivity which I'd have to research for various covid variants. I did hear that omicron infection provided protection from delta and I heard it extended more than that but as I say, I'd have to research it.
Those are among the factors I was mentioning earlier, that aren't included in the current health data churned out and assessments made. It's why I said it's selfish to only consider it from a vaccine perspective.
It depends on an awful lot of things, but that's not clear when people just talk as though "the" vaccine is the be all and end all. I'm fully vaxxed, but only because it was needed to jump through some hoops to travel etc. It was far from a free choice.
Are you talking pre-Covid vaccines, or the the current mRNA experimental gene therapy that had never previously been long term tested on humans? If you’re talking pre-Covid vaccines I’d tend to agree. If you’re talking the latter I’d simply say time will tell.
I'm fully vaxxed and am happy to be so, I'm 68 so of an age where people have had problems. My wife is asthmatic with heart problems so vulnerable I suppose. All through this pandemic, governments have been running around trying to do something to help the situation. Almost certainly very little of it has achieved anything positive, but we live in an age where it's not acceptable for them to do nothing. As i have said before, it will be quite a few years before we find out what, if anything, all this achieved. I am of an age where vaccination was a part of life. I had a lad 5-6 years in the next street to me die of tetanus. I had a cousin who was crippled with polio. I have had to have vaccines for work and so ,I suppose, I believe in them. Am I right to? Interesting question. The control experiment is un do-able. I suppose I worked on the "better safe than sorry" principle.
I'm not, I'm just sick of the pandemic and want it to end (it appears to be doing that). I consider the un vaccinated prolong the agony.
In many respects, it's the vaccinated and government mandates that's prolonging the agony. The vaccine certainly seems to have helped, (although I'm not sure what the current situation is in regions that couldn't get supplies, which could be interesting as a control) but it looks like things are drifting away of their own accord now, as there is a fair amount of debate about the nature of omicron and any later viruses, which are liable to be in line with previous pre-covid ones. So demanding vaccines doesn't do that much good. Take the tennis player in Oz. He was clear of the virus, so no threat, yet others that were vaxed ended up having to go home because they contracted it there. The current regimes around the world are pursuing political rather than scientific programmes, which to an extent, are driven by their previous messages designed to instill fear. I've ended up needing a booster, due to some other Countries rules. It's a madness that isn't really reducing the risks. The best thing we can all do is shrug and get on with things despite all the bollocks churned out and use our own common sense to mitigate risks.
I’m surprised there’s any unvaccinated still breathing the way some people go on (not aimed at anyone in particular).
It appears to be the vaccinated prolonging the agony in the most highly vaccinated countries in the world, Israel and Gibraltar. So how does that work?
